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it was a slugfest. Before I get into the poor stats, you may be asking how this is possible without first having a successful DH Sharp Snow x DH Sharp Snow breeding. I took my male Sharp albino and bred him to a rather large anery hoping for a nice sized litter of DH Sharp Strain Snows. It turns out I get 5 Anerys 100% Sharp Strain Albinos (and many slugs). My anery gave birth at 100 days past POS (most likely due to the high slug count), so they have to absorb some yolk. I really hope they make it- what a crazy genetic anomaly. This means my Sharp has to be 100% het for anery (unless there is something going on here I do not understand)! But if he is a het, why no normals? Was I just lucky (there was only five)? If he is in fact het for anery, this means some of his siblings (and one of the parents) could also be hets. I will take pics as soon as I know they are in the clear. I welcome any type of discussion on this interesting event.

Genetics is cool!

I'd bet some red creeps in.
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Ron Michelotti

Class Reptilia
www.classreptilia.com

If you look at the number of albino to normals that have been produced to outcross the blood it is quite possible that a het anerythristic was used in place of a normal, and the breeder may have not realized that he had done this. The reason this could be a possibility is the possible hets floating around that were sold in wholesale lots as normals, and the number of potential gene carriers that come in from the wild. I am not saying that this is the case, but it is possible, and can explain the occasional "my ______ morph female just threw 2 _____ from a normal male breeding"

Later
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Randall L Turner Jr.
www.aircapitalconstrictors.com
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Congrats on another litter and I hope the Anerys make it for you. I am down to 2 of 6 Albinos from my 'disaster' Albino litter from the other day!

I have heard, seen and have had a few spontaneous Anerys pop up in litters in the past, from non Anery gene carriers. I say they are Anerys by appearance, which seems obvious, but have never raised them up to see if they breed true. For you to get 5 though and no normals seems quite odd and leaves you to think that there is a hidden Anery gene there! Very cool if that is the case!

But, they also may have not colored up from being born a little early. I have had babies on day 95 post P.O.S and have had them perfect and have had babies on day 105 and have had them w/ yolk and big bellies and they could have used a few more days. So the idea of the lack of color from being early might well be the answer.

Touching on the subject that Randy brought up is exactly why breeders who do wholesale Poss Hets and 100% Hets in groups should always tell the buyer / wholesaler what they are getting whether it be a Het or Poss Het. I do sell a lot of Poss Hets and male Het Albinos at lower prices in lots and always tell the buyer what they are getting whether they care or not. With some, not all breeders already jumping the gun and naming boas with their own personal names, whether it be a Morph or not, we do not need an Albino, Anery or whatever popping up in a litter and that breeder attaching his name to it as a new bloodline. I am so surprised with the amount of Poss Het Albinos out there that someone has not accidentally produced an Albino and marketed it as a their new bloodline! With time I am sure it will happen though. LOL

I DO agree that if a breeder acquires an import that they acclimate and get to successfully reproduce they have all the right to name the bloodline and attach their name to it.

Take care,

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Mike Weitzman

BASICALLYBOAS.com
'Specializing in True RedTails & Designer Boa Morphs'

I couldnt agree more with your statement about explaining the genetics to a buyer. I buy alot of boas for re-sale and many are poss hets, ect. Whenever possible I lable the animals genetics, not to raise the value as some might think, but just to help keep things clear.

With as many morphs as are out there, I think its very important to keep known genetics known soo to speak, as you said a albino popping out of nowhere is only a matter of time.
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Mickey Hinkle
The Lizard King Reptiles
http://thelizardkingreptiles.com
402-614-6641

"I am the Lizard King, I can do anything" - Jim Morrison

I am a little skeptacle, but they all have the anery "look." I will make a point to post pics after they shed out. They could definitely change, as I have seen it before. Even if they continue to look anerytheristic, I will probably have to prove them out by breeding them to an anery morph. I will also have to breed the Sharp male to an anery morph to see if the same thing occurs. Regardless, they are still alive and I am happy to have whatever they are! One of them has a cool block pattern.
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Ron Michelotti

Class Reptilia
www.classreptilia.com

Im sure the litter could have been much more, but atleast its something. Any other litters on the waiting list or is your season winding down?

You know its funny, Im in Nebraska, right next to Iowa. Did you know Iowa is the hog capitol of the country....HINT HINT.
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Mickey Hinkle
The Lizard King Reptiles
http://thelizardkingreptiles.com
402-614-6641

"I am the Lizard King, I can do anything" - Jim Morrison