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borneo batteaters

Justin Stricklin Jul 01, 2004 11:28 PM

I have been very intrigud by these since I have heard of them, and have done alot of reasearch. I have a mal albino burm and am going ot get a feamle for future breeding. When I do start to breed, I would like to try to make the hybrids. Just on batch, unless they sale great. My question is should I breed a male burm to female retic or viceversa. Does it matter with the gentetics for any reason. Oh and seeing as either way, I will be breeding an albino nurm to normal retic. What will be the offspring? Percentage wise. I hte punnet squares and am very rusty on them and seeing as i am making a hybrifd i don't know if that changes anything. Also, do retics and burms breed together just as good as they do to their own species? keep in mind that this is for future breeding and am not looking to power feed or to speed things up for anything so don't flame me.
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Justin

Replies (6)

Justin Stricklin Jul 01, 2004 11:30 PM

I think I hould have read what I wrote. I made so many typos. I'm sorry. Please try to read it anyways. I have gotten very bad at checking to make sure I typed right.
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Justin

toddbecker Jul 01, 2004 11:38 PM

Everything about the bateaters is still mostly a mystery. As far as the albino being compatible to the albino that is in retics no one knows. One sure fire way to find out is to breed the albino burm to either an albino tic or a tic het for albino. If the albino genes are the smae then you should be the first to create an albino bateater. If they are not and you use an albino tic then you will get a bateater that is het for burm albino and tic albino. Then once breed back to an albino form either species it will produce albinos. If you bred it back to an albino tic then it would be 75% tic x 25% burm albino. The oppposite would be the case if you bred it back to an albino burm the results would be jsut the opposite. I am not sure about the fine details about the actually breeding. I would strongly suggest that you contact either Bob Clark, Mike Wilbanks, NERD, or Prehistoric Pets. I know that Bob and NERD have produced Bateaters. I am not sure about the other two but they might also be able to give you more information. Hope this helps, Todd

Ryan Shackleton Jul 02, 2004 12:18 AM

I have seen some pics of 75%/25% albino hybrids, the photos I have seen didn't look a whole lot like a hybrid, they looked like an albino Burm with odd pattern characteristics. The one I remember most was said to have come from the same clutch as a "normal" hybrid, and that snake was an obvious cross, even though it was 75% Burm. No idea if a 50/50 cross would show, will probably be a while before we find out, most people with albino retics seem determined to go for the albino tigers and supers, not many want to risk time on hybrids, it's been said they have small clutches and low survival rates.

Justin Stricklin Jul 02, 2004 01:00 AM

Thanx both of you. Todd, i read what yuo wrote at least 10 times and still confused. I will figure it out though. I'm slow on genetics, very very slow. I would like to breed a male albino burm to a female normal retic. But this is in abou 3 years or morre so I am in no rush. I might give bob clark an e-mail or call or something later. I know it might seem like I am rushing into this because i have never bred pythons and now I want to breed something that is hard.lol. I am very dedicated to my animals so I know i can handle it. Maybe it is as simple as jsut putting the male with female? After brumating and all of course. I saw one realy good looking pic of a batteater, but don't know where. I am always open to info on these so if you here anything jut give me an e-mail.
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Justin

toddbecker Jul 02, 2004 01:56 AM

I was just thinking about a way to produce true albino bateaters would be to breed an albino 75%/25% retic/burm to a albino 75%/25% burm/retic. All the resulting offspring would be albino 50%/50%. Granted this will take quite a while. Probably four generations but it would be something to see. Let us know what you figure out. Todd

worldsocold Jul 04, 2004 01:05 PM

Id like to think if you crossed a 100% het albino tic to a 100% het albino burm (Or already Albino) youd get TRUE albioo bate eaters, But What about breeding Granite, Geen, Lab's into the Bat Eater? Or Lavender? Sun fire, tiger, super tiger, calico, AS NERD has shown, with just breeding a tic to a bat eater you get "Jungle" Bat eaters 75% tic and 25% Burm. This cross has militless possibilites, THe bad thing is I hope that they don't mess up the tic and burm market, But as Bob clark and NERD have said producing Bat eaters isn't easy, Good Luck!

If you can't afford an albino Tic, FInd someone with a MAle and get yourself two Huge female burms and Try to do a breeding program, AFter all no one with a female albino retic is going to loan her out, everyone wants the albino tigers and albino super tigers.

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