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Looking to Get into the Ball Python Project

Viper22 Jun 20, 2003 03:34 PM

Well i am just about ready to venture into this amzing hobby and i have been following all the morphs and genetics for a pretty long while and have now decided that it is time for me to go ahead and try and make a decision on what i want to buy. So far i'm not sure what would be the best idea. My first idea is buying a 100% Het Albino Male and a 100% Het Albino Female. Or i could just get a 100% Het Male and a few Possible Het Albino Females. I'm just afraid that if i take the Possible female route that i may end up spending money and not producing anything. So would it be safer and cheaper to go and spend the extra money for a definite het male and female or take the definite male and a few possible het females.

Well now on to my second idea. I really like the Albino methos alot but i also see something else that could be very productive. I was thinking of just buying a Male Pastel Jungle and breeding him to about 6 Normal Females. This would mean that since the pastels are co-dominant that each clutch from the 6 normal females will be half pastel and half normal. Which would give me quite a few pastels to be able to make money off of and continue to try and since i would keep 1.1 offspring of pastels that i would produce i could try and get some Super Pastels. So that is my plans. I'm just wondering what everyone thinks in their opinion would be the best road to take in this exciting honny. Thanks.

Replies (9)

LeeFobes Jun 20, 2003 03:38 PM

viper, are you by anychance the viper at RFC?

Viper22 Jun 20, 2003 03:56 PM

Sorry but i don't even know what RFC actually is. I have never heard of it. Sorry but thanks.

mykee Jun 20, 2003 07:14 PM

Viper, I have both pastels and albinos, you seem to be on the right track, run with it. I, personally, would go with a Het male and a few 100% het females, you might get an albino or two, but all the rest will be 100% het for albino, and you can fund anothr project with the profits. Also, if you 're getting 1.1 pastels, it will take you A LONG time and a lot of luck to get a super pastel. Good luck.

EmberBall Jun 20, 2003 07:46 PM

Het albino male to het albino females gives you albinos and POSSIBLE HET normal looking offspring, no 100% het albino offspring will be produced.

Dave

mykee Jun 21, 2003 12:35 PM

n/p

JakeM Jun 20, 2003 08:52 PM

In additon to what Dave said, producing a super pastel from 1.1 pastels will take no longer nor require any more luck than producing an albino from 1.1 hets.

Jake

Viper22 Jun 20, 2003 09:48 PM

So what does everyone think would be the best and most wisest method to take?

EmberBall Jun 20, 2003 10:04 PM

It really depends on two things. What morph do you like better, and how much money do you have to spend. Assuming you have about $1K to spend, which is what a 100% het pair of albinos will cost or a male pastel, buy which morph you like. If you buy what you think will make you the most money, you will likely be dissapointed. What if you love albinos and buy a pastel male and normal females instead, because you think they will be the most profitable, and your Pastel male does not produce the first 3 years you have him. Will you say, I should have gotten the albino hets, or will you be happy you have a pastel to look at every day? Buy what you like, and keep your projects concise. A het pair will eat far less than a pastel male and 6 females, less room etc. A pastel, you will have a morph, and no sweating it out thinking in the back of you mind "What if these albino hets are just normals?" My opinion, buy the pastel, and one or two females, and if you have the money, buy a het albino female too. Wait until next year, and get a het albino male, they are very inexpensive, and you do not need a het albino male right away!

Dave

AlliMarie Jun 21, 2003 09:12 AM

Well, to make your choice a little more educated with advice from somebody who only owns hets.... go with the pastel. Or any co-dominant gene. For us little gals with no reputation, it is really difficult to sell the possible hets we get from het breedings. With the pastel gene, if the baby is a pastel or a super pastel, it looks like one. If a baby looks normal, it's normal. People will be a lot more trusting when buying a het super pastel (aka pastel) than when buying a het albino because they can visually see what they're buying. Am I making sense? If you're planning on doing this for money, go the assured-sales way and get the pastel male and as many normal females as you can get your hands on. If you're getting into this for the hobby, and the fun of breeding, and don't really care about being able to sell your animals nationwide to strangers... then flip a coin. Heads pastel, Tails het albinos. Either way, you can't really lose.
Hope this helps.
AlliMarie

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