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venomous

CrazyCodyKadunk Jul 02, 2004 08:18 PM

i am talking to a few people about hognose snakes and ringneck snakes and they say they r both venmous. i say this is not true iknow hognose have special teeth for popping toads what do u guys say.

CrazyCody

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BGF Jul 03, 2004 01:15 AM

Yes they are both venomous and no the teeth are not used for toad popping but rather for delivering the venom.

If you are interested in more info, download these research papers we've recently published (including hognose venom in the mix)

http://www.venomdoc.com/downloads/2003_BGF_alpha-colubritoxin.pdf
http://www.venomdoc.com/downloads/2004_BGF_Assembling_an_Arsenal.pdf
http://www.venomdoc.com/downloads/2003_BGF_Colubroidea_RCMS.pdf

This is not to say either of those species are likely to be capable of delivering a medically significant envenomation but they certainly can deliver enough venom to settle down a prey item (which is the whole point of having venom).

Cheers
Bryan
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Dr. Bryan Grieg Fry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Australian Venom Research Unit,
University of Melbourne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Population and Evolutionary Genetics Unit,
Museum Victoria
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http://www.venomdoc.com

Colchicine Jul 03, 2004 09:01 AM

>>Yes they are both venomous and no the teeth are not used for toad popping but rather for delivering the venom.
>>
>>If you are interested in more info, download these research papers we've recently published (including hognose venom in the mix)
>>
>>http://www.venomdoc.com/downloads/2003_BGF_alpha-colubritoxin.pdf
>>http://www.venomdoc.com/downloads/2004_BGF_Assembling_an_Arsenal.pdf
>>http://www.venomdoc.com/downloads/2003_BGF_Colubroidea_RCMS.pdf
>>
>>This is not to say either of those species are likely to be capable of delivering a medically significant envenomation but they certainly can deliver enough venom to settle down a prey item (which is the whole point of having venom).
>>
>>Cheers
>>Bryan
>>-----
>>Dr. Bryan Grieg Fry
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Australian Venom Research Unit,
>>University of Melbourne
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Population and Evolutionary Genetics Unit,
>>Museum Victoria
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>http://www.venomdoc.com
-----
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LuvThemReptiles Jul 03, 2004 10:08 PM

Here is A link showing the results of A hognose bite.
http://www.herpnet.net/bite/

LuvThemReptiles Jul 03, 2004 10:09 PM

Hope this works As A direct link.
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