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RETFs in Amplexus

ISH Jul 02, 2004 09:21 PM

I've had (raised from froglettes and tads) my RETFs for about 3 years. I just recently built a bigger and better terrarium with a misting system. Now a have two of them in Amplexus. Check out the photo. I'll post more later. Question for the pros out there: should I take out the other males who keep dive bombing the lucky guy on the females back or should I leave well enough alone? Thank you all for your time and answers to my questions over the years. I'm sure there will be more once I need to take care of all the eggs that will come someday.

ISH

Replies (9)

Colchicine Jul 03, 2004 08:55 AM

Do you have them set up in a vertical tank? If so, can you give some details on how you have done it?
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ISH Jul 03, 2004 01:38 PM

Well first take a look at my tanks picture. I took a 50 gallon flat terraium, turned it on its side (4 ft tall, 1.5 ft wide, and 13in deep) and then siliconed about 6 inches of glass at the bottum so that I could put water at the bottum. I made my own screens for the top (now the front) as well as for the bottum so that I could have a land area for the frogs. I put in a tuppeware containor with holes drilled in the bottum for the crickets. I have one hose sucking the water out and another going in attached to two misting nozzles. I want to get a filter system going with a waterfall eventually so I don't have to change the water so ofter, but right now I just change the water about every 3-5 days depending on how often the frogs (8 total) defecate or how many crickets get out and drown. I try to clean as I go so as not to do major cleaning all the time. Let me know what you think.

ISH

Spoony Jul 04, 2004 04:56 PM

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ISH Jul 05, 2004 03:14 PM

Here's is another shot of a different couple in amplexus during the day. So far no eggs. On a sadder note I found one of my males dead on July 3. No indication as to how or why he died. I do know that the males do fight a lot over the females.

ISH

Colchicine Jul 06, 2004 08:48 AM

I don't know why more people don't do this for their treefrogs. I have been using the same setup and it allows the frogs to stratify into their own microhabitats.
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...the oldest task in human history: to live on a piece of land without spoiling it."
Aldo Leopold (1938)

"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
Calvin and Hobbes (Scientific Progress Goes 'Boink', 1991)

ISH Jul 06, 2004 11:42 AM

I agree. More tree frog owners should do their best in creating a livable/likable tall tank for the aboreal frogs. When I first bought a RETF I had him in a 29 gal but I always felt mean keeping a tree climber in such a small environment. Even in this current habitat I feel its not quite big enough but it's better until I can build something larger.

ISH

Derek Benson Jul 07, 2004 10:32 AM

Most of us do use vertical tanks. I for one, like to make my own. I'm building a plywood rack right now that will be coated with fiberglass resin. I like the looks of background on 3 sides, so why cover up glass? In it is a 120 gallon tank (4' tall x 2' long x 2'deep) for my waxy monkeys.
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Lia Jul 18, 2004 01:14 PM

Great loking and roomy to. How do you heat it? I ask because looking into setting up a 40 gallon high hex tank but I use AC in summer at 65 degrees temp. So not sure if its even possible to house green treefrogs. I was thinking of ceramic heat emitter for night but read they can dehydrate a treefrog.
Lia

sinbadzeus Jul 28, 2004 08:25 PM

to answer your question,

It would be advisable to remove the pair in amplexus to reduce stress. you will find, however, that mating will occur regardless of the males challenging each other. Darwinism at work! You may not have much luck with the misting system alone, for most pumps have maximum run time of a couple minutes. I have been successful in breeding with several hours of rain per night. I use a water pump as opposed to a misting pump. I have a misting pump in the regular tank to bring the frogs into amplexus, when the males start to call profusely, I move a male and female into the rain chamber and use it to rain 4-6 hours a night. I have never had to leave a pair in the rain chamber longer than 2 days, and regularly get at least 2-3 cluthes of eggs.

hope this helps, attached is a photo of the regular tank. Search the photos forum for username: sinbadzeus for the rain chamber. I can post more detailed photos if requested. I have a lot of experience with breeding and building enclosures. This is my favorite hobby!
good luck.

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