hey googo,jordamn,
thank you for the help!!!! Tomorrow I am going to contact a well known herp vet t help get there guys back in shape and to have a nicropsey???(may be spelled wrong) on the most recent death there has been two deaths one occured two days after recieving the animals!! just to insure that its not me whos let these animals go down like this!!when I got them they where living in poor conditions.I have a good collection of snakes 92 to be exact! and these 17 are the only ones giving me this problem. I have bloods of my own who are just fine! Im going to get to the bottom of this mess and clean it up!!It tears me up when these beautiful animals die!! Once again thank you for your advice and help, Ill keep everyone posted!!!!!!
thank you JOSH


