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Where can I find a list of all the new Pantherophis....

Hotshot May 14, 2003 07:33 AM

What are the new names for Pantherophis?

I know the black rat is now Pantherophis Obsoletus Obsoletus, and the grey rat is the P. O. Spiloidus, and the corn is the P. Guttatus Guttatus. What are the correct names for the glades rat, yellow rat, bairds, and did the green rat also get a change?

Just trying to get up to speed on this. Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Brian

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WW May 15, 2003 11:37 AM

>>What are the new names for Pantherophis?
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>>I know the black rat is now Pantherophis Obsoletus Obsoletus, and the grey rat is the P. O. Spiloidus, and the corn is the P. Guttatus Guttatus. What are the correct names for the glades rat, yellow rat, bairds, and did the green rat also get a change?

The names stay exactly the same, except that the first word in the combination is not Patherophis instead of Elaphe. And if the (sub-)species name ended in -a, it now ends in -us.

This is applicable to all the N. American snakes which were until now in Elaphe.

Cheers,

Wolfgang
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Jan Grathwohl May 17, 2003 06:39 PM

The green rat is now again called Senticolis triaspis.

Regards

Jan Grathwohl

vvvddd Jun 01, 2003 02:07 PM

I thought the -is suffix was feminine in greek (since ophis is greek) and so obsoleta would still end with an -a (feminine in latin).

Lampropeltis getula is the same way...

Just nitpicking I know, but I had to check...

Thanks
Van

WW Jun 05, 2003 03:06 AM

>>I thought the -is suffix was feminine in greek (since ophis is greek) and so obsoleta would still end with an -a (feminine in latin).
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>>Lampropeltis getula is the same way...
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>>Just nitpicking I know, but I had to check...

Good Q - I am not sure whether the -is = feminine rule is universal, I suspect not - there are exception to most rules in most languages.

What would matter primarily is whether the stem word (e.g., Ophis) is masculine or feminine. Checking the EMBL database and some colubrid genera ending with -ophis, they are universally treated as masculine, so I assume this has some correct basis in etymology.

Cheers,

Wolfgang
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meretseger Jun 05, 2003 05:38 PM

The 'is' in Latin words can be masculine, feminine, or neuter. I think the 'peltis' in Lampropeltis is Latin, so that would explain the discrepency.
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