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I have been reading the forum here latley an have noticed all the talk about bans on exotic animals!An thought it wont happen here!WRONG!Behind the citizens of Paducah Ky back a secret hush hush meeting was held an a law is passed thst no one in McCracken county will own,harber,buy or sell ANY exotic animal!This law has been passed!I feel it was very imature of the city officials in Paduch to keep these city meetings hush,the way they did!An to pass this law!!The definition of exotic animal is,Any animal that does not come from the united states,No grandfather clause or anything!I CALLED ANIMAL CONTROL AN GOT TOLD LOOKS LIKE WE WILL START A ZOO AN LAUGHED!This is crazy an not just about my boas,this law includes iguanas,birds an any exotic type animal,this is wrong,the editor of the local news paper is supposed to be calling me back,an I would like any information that can help appeal this bill!My email is still active an I do have long distance if anyone will talk to me in person!Thanks,Lets stop this stupidness!Charles,[HYPOBOA]

and see if you can get something reasonable amended to it. Draft a proposel that states, anacondas, burms, retics, the larger monitors, hot snakes will be illegal however smaller snake species that dont commonly exceed 8ft will not. Then pull stats about dog bites, people injured by horses etc to back your facts that 8ft and smaller snakes pose no threat. Youll probally have to start a petition and get a ton of signatures. See if there is a local herp society or try and find some bird people in your area. Your best bet for saving the reptiles would be to piggy back the reptiles on an amendment with something less offensive like birds. Can you copy and paste so we all can take a look at it? If it says all none native US species that would include hamster, gerbils etc all the little mammal species that half the people who voted for the law proablly bought their kids for x-mas. Talk to the pet stores or local vets, they maybe be able to direct you to your nearest herp society or bird club. Once a law is on the books its alomst impossible to remove. The best you can do is try and talk some sense into the to amend it and make it somewhat reasonable and to do that I know it sucks but your going to have to give(i.e. burms retics, hots etc) to get. I for one wont invest in large snakes anymore because I firmly believe within 10yrs theyll be illegal most everywhere. As time goes on and PETA and HSUS build more wind behind their sails and these laws get more rediculous Im personally getting more leary about colombians and my own beloved dumerils.

Everyone needs to start pushing these "big name" breeders and huge supply companies to step up to the plate and get active in fighting these laws. I wont invest 7 or 8g's into a motley boa because I see the day when their wont be anyone I can legally sell them to. Same goes for lavender albino retics I think they are one of the most amazing snakes ever produced but I see the day when the number of people who can buy them getting slashed in half by laws alot sooner then the day boas will be outlawed. Were living on barrowed time, policing our selves isnt enough, we have to get active and force everyone else to get active as well because our time is about up!
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If their definition of wild animal is anything that doesn't come from the United States then I'd use that to my advantage by saying, "my animals do come from the US." They were captive bred within the country. I don't own a single imported animal from outside of the US." A good lawyer would be all over that technicality.

Ok I have done a little more research on the matter an have found out that,The law states any non-indigenous ANIMAL from the united states,an the only reptile that is included in this ordinance is venimous snakes!So my Boa,s are safe for now!!How long?Who knows!I agree with dumerals.com,When they passed this bill they wasnt thinking,even though my boa,s are safe,these people wasnt thinking of all the little animals that this law includes that these people probably buy their own kids!These people jumping on these band wagons need to educate themselves before passing a bill!The main reason for this bill here is because 2 years ago a gentleman had 2 lions an he was not taking care of them an you all can guess what happened to him!Yes he was mauled to death an the lions shot!But I ask wjy pass a law that says animals an venimous reptiles if all they where worried about was large preditors!Confuses me!An I whole hartedly agree that somthing needs to be done now,before it is really to late!I will post a copy of the ordinance friday night!Thanks everyone!Charles[Hypoboa]

Stupid law...
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Many states are adopting exotic ownership control and bans. Its done under the guise, "protection of native specie". While real issues that effect native populations like overpopulation(humans), urban sprall, habitat loss- go completely ignored. Anyone that reads their state laws can see that there are already laws against release of non-native exotics. So why the redundance? Well, putting into law, bans on the smallest percentage of exotic animal owners is only the tip of the iceberg- we are currently easy targets with no way to defend themselves. Know your enemies: HSUS, FWP, Audoban(the bird protecters, spelled badly), and the Wlidlfe Federation. Do we have a bottomless pit of money- for lobbyists, caller lists- to make issues seem very important with a barrage of concerned citizens, and time- we all have 60-80 hour a week jobs. We sure don't. Not to mention these agencies will prey on fears of our representitives with emotional appeals, lies, and long gone health concerns. We all need to start taking more aggressive proactive actions agaist these institutions. This is becoming madness... anti-activist activists? What a mess.
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