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I am wondering what the effects of eyelash venom are to a human?

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Tyler
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I believe that it is hemotoxic, which causes internal bleeding, shock, death... and a whole list of other side effects.

No snake venom from a viper or elapid is (to my knowlege) anything less than what requires medical attention. If it doesn't kill you it will break your bank account. For example, if a cape cobra bites you it can take up to 300+ viles of antivenom to "cure" you. I put cure in quotes because you will have permanant damage to the area where it bit you, and other side effects that will most likely never go away. The viles for cobra bites can range from $150 to $250 apiece + the hospital bill. Vipers can be a little cheaper to cure... but I wouldn't count on it.

Also, insurance does not generally cover bites... its all out of your wallet.

I'm not trying to shock you into not getting one, just be very careful and mindful around these animals because of the danger. Eyelash vipers are beautiful snakes that make for wonderful displays, as long as you have the skill to keep them safely.

Brian from venomdoc.com can answer your question alot better than I can, so if you ask him he can give you a better answer of the effects of venom. I just know the 2 major types of venom: neurotoxic and hemotoxic, but he can tell you literally all the effects it may cause. His name is BGF and you could post this in the "Venomous" forums here for a better answer from several other people.

Good luck
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Sean McIntyre

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1.0 Elaphe Vulpina Gloydi - Eastern Fox Snake
0.1 Leucistic Elaphe Obsoleta Linheimeri - Texas Ratsnake
1.1 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Python

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No snake venom from a viper or elapid is (to my knowlege) anything less than what requires medical attention. If it doesn't kill you it will break your bank account. For example, if a cape cobra bites you it can take up to 300 viles of antivenom to "cure" you. I put cure in quotes because you will have permanant damage to the area where it bit you, and other side effects that will most likely never go away. The viles for cobra bites can range from $150 to $250 apiece the hospital bill. Vipers can be a little cheaper to cure... but I wouldn't count on it.

and my message wasn't posted...just the quote...what i basically said (though this one will be shorter) is that

1. A cape bite, though incredibly toxic and life threatening, is VERY unlikely to require more than 30 vials (that is likely on the HIGH end)

2. SAIMR Polyvalent (used to treat African Naja, Bitis, Dendroaspis) is pretty damn effective, and dirt cheap, running $30 a vial ($60 for a two-pack).

There was somemore in my post, but I'm not going to bother to type it again

Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere on their website, but on Animal Planet one time I saw a show where a person had been bitten repeatedly by a cape cobra and it did take many many vials of antivenom to "cure" him. I'm not sure of the exact number, but it was over 250 (which I found hard to believe). They never said nor showed the size of the vials they were using, so I must conclude that they were either using small vials or I heard wrong.

I didn't clearly explain that some vipers antivenom (like copperheads for example) is not very expensive, but the hospital care is.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, and thanks for catching my mistake
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Sean McIntyre

Currently have:
0.1 Antherystic Elaphe Guttata Guttata - Corn Snake
1.0 Elaphe Vulpina Gloydi - Eastern Fox Snake
0.1 Leucistic Elaphe Obsoleta Linheimeri - Texas Ratsnake
1.1 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Python

Saving for:
Agkistrodon Contortix Mokasen - Northern Copperhead
Epicrates Cenchria Cenchria - Brazilian Rainbow Boa

Interesting about the Animal planet thing, I multiple bite incident with a cape would certainly be a serious affair, but AP has sensationalized things before, and I wouldn't put it past them to exaggerate (or just have the wrong info) about such a thing...IF such an incident where over 250 vials were used (assuming the are the standard size made by SAIMR), it would certainly be a VERY unique case indeed.

If I didn't hear wrong it was certainly exaggerated... because 250 vials would make any normal sized guy (like the one they showed) a human michelin man.
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Sean McIntyre

Currently have:
0.1 Antherystic Elaphe Guttata Guttata - Corn Snake
1.0 Elaphe Vulpina Gloydi - Eastern Fox Snake
0.1 Leucistic Elaphe Obsoleta Linheimeri - Texas Ratsnake
1.1 Morelia Spilota Cheyni - Jungle Carpet Python

Saving for:
Agkistrodon Contortix Mokasen - Northern Copperhead
Epicrates Cenchria Cenchria - Brazilian Rainbow Boa