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Backyard catch

Blackbrush68 Jul 08, 2004 08:40 AM

Caught this ratsnake yesterday evening when I was putting up my mowers. Can anybody give me an accurate I.D. It was photographed and released after the wife and kids inspected it.

Replies (5)

michaelb Jul 08, 2004 12:09 PM

It's either a Black Rat snake, Elaphe (or Pantherophis) o. obsoleta, a Texas Rat snake, E. (or P.) o. lindheimerii, or an intergrade of the two. Most likely a Texas Rat or an intergrade, but we needs to know your location before we can pin it down.
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MichaelB

DoorGunner Jul 08, 2004 01:28 PM

It also looks like it could be an intergrade of black and grey rat snake. Location is everything, and thanks you for not shooting, grinding, slicing, dicing, stabbing, running over, stomping on, or in any other way, killing this beautiful, harmless and helpful critter.

Blackbrush68 Jul 08, 2004 02:09 PM

My apologies guys I suppose a location would help. I live north of Houston in Montgomery.

michaelb Jul 08, 2004 02:20 PM

Elaphe obsoleta lindheimerii. The dark head eliminates all of the other candidates, and you're in an area where intergrades with other subspecies would not be expected (based on the range maps I have) .
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MichaelB

dan felice Jul 08, 2004 05:53 PM

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