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can you cross.......

Pythons_N_Boas Jul 09, 2004 05:21 PM

a BCI and a BCC?

thanks

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tomas Jul 09, 2004 05:30 PM

Purists hate crosses and other people find them fascination.

Genetically, they will all cross.

Sometimes the different types breed at different times of the year which can make it tougher to hybridize them.

RioBravoReptiles Jul 09, 2004 06:23 PM

.. it takes a male and a female of proper age and condition. More seriously: You wrote: "purists hate crosses" and some other...

I think it more correct to say that so called Purists hate crosses being passed off as one subspecies or locality or another instead of the new product they are. And I know there are many such breeders who do not mis-represent their babies.. but sooner or later many find their way in to the marketplace as a certain subspecies or type, especially if the experiment does not yield anything particularly nice or valuable.

For many reasons, some maybe good, some not-so-good, people decide to crossbreed their boas and other animals. Despite the anything-goes attitude that some people have many others do not think it smart or progressive. Here we deal with boas and the rules are not clear.. but in other associations working with different kinds of animals to purposely cross animals of known seperate lineage would be considered heresy. Even the true morphs are evolving into lines and stud-books that people respect, so why is a natural boa morph considered so lightly by some? It is a mystery..

In general, it is true that most Boa will breed with most any other type, the question would be why attempt it? The genie is out of the bottle and there is no going back from intergrading and crossbreeding, heck, a lot of those products are beautiful.. But there are very many animals already available from these experiments, use those. Knowingly and purposefully cross-breeding animals of known natural lineage is a waste.

IMHO

Gus

Chris Olson Jul 09, 2004 06:35 PM

My problem isn't the Salmontine Sunglow....it's all the "not the product I was going for," that get's created in the process and potentially sold as something it's not.

The other problem is....with some of these endangered animals (BCO and Hogg's Island BCI for example), there is no new genetic material coming into collections...what we have is potentially all we will ever have. Eventually the pure Hogg's and Argie's we have will not be here...and the result of that is inbreeding and more integrating until there are no clean genetics left.

I know that sounds kind of extreme...but without fresh genetics, someone tell me another possible outcome.....

Take care, Chris Olson
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Chris Olson Jul 09, 2004 05:31 PM

Infact it happens in the wild...and in many private collections.
The girl is 25% BCC and Het for Albino.

Chris Olson

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Pythons_N_Boas Jul 09, 2004 05:33 PM

awsome, thanks

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