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guy needs to have snakes hitch a ride someday ....

anyone come here from Ind?........

......how about Chicago area?...need a ride ther too....

LMAO.........
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people???.........people are stupid.........
really???......really.........

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are not very many herpers in the State of Indiana. You can proably count them on one hand. Don't get me wrong, there are those that keep an Iguana or a Red ear Slider, but if your looking for someone who keeps and breeding Herps, your not going to find very many in this State (Indiana).
The main reason is the stupid laws that govern us and what we are allowed to maintain, or in this case, what we are not allowed to maintain.
I use to go to the Hamburg show all the time. Took twelve hours to travel from Indianapolis to Hamburg. That was back in the day when I had a huge venomous collection. In 1998, my state made it illegal to buy, sell, breed or keep venomous (there is a permit system in place, but you would need to jump thru ten hoops and sign your life away to get a permit for a single animal). So, it pretty much killed that part of the Hobby here.
Indiana was never well known in producing well known Herpers anyways.
Good luck in your search

I'm from Indiana (unfortunately I don't go to those shows mentioned), but I've met a ton of breeders and even more that are just plain herpers in Indy. Unfortunately, not a lot of them have websites so that you could search for them online. You might search kingsnake's Breeders and Dealers page for breeders that might be close.
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Check Out My Albums

1.0 Ball Python "Aragorn"
1.0 Kenyan Sand Boa "Gimli"
1.0 Saharan Sand Boa "Frodo"
0.1 Rough-Scale Sand Boa "Arwen"
0.1 California Kingsnake "Gentoo"
1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Indigo"
1.0 Snow Corn snake "Chile"

0.1 Australian Cattle Dog/Pointer
"Kira"

and it sounds like your state sux too.......

.......I may just ship stuff there....I hate to ship though.....

.......Pa sux too......too many herpers..everything goes out too cheaply......trust me......I could make 3 times what I make now if it wasn't so crowded here.....

oh..and if most people buying stuff here weren't getting just stupid animals......(little frog a little salamander,,,,a snake worth %10.....turantulas,odd bugs.....stuff worth nothing.........and of course the alltime sellers.....$10 import balls,import boas,and imported burmese,retics,etc etc etc..........

of course most if which are kept for awhile then killed from wrongful practices or redneck stupidity.......or traded at same show for a different $5 animal........

kewl.......

......Thanks.........

JY

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people???.........people are stupid.........
really???......really.........

Well, not to sound like a smart a$$, but could you possibly name six or seven breders from this Ton of Breeders you speak of?
Not Garage Dealers, or pond scum you see at the flea markets, but actual people who have collections and breed what they maintain??
Some one keeping a tree frog or a Spotted Salamander is not a breeder.

Well, not to sound like a smart a$$ either - but I guess you know everyone in Indy?

I talk to a lot of the breeders at the shows and have met some herpers outside the show.

Names I can remember:

Jason Hess
Dr. Adolf Maas
Cummings from Hoosier Reptiles
Troy Dozier
Jason Stoots
Jeff McClure
Bryan Kollwitz

And I only keep snakes - so these breeders do breed snakes (and some breed other species as well). Never seen them at a flea market (don't go to flea markets).
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Check Out My Albums

1.0 Ball Python "Aragorn"
1.0 Kenyan Sand Boa "Gimli"
1.0 Saharan Sand Boa "Frodo"
0.1 Rough-Scale Sand Boa "Arwen"
0.1 California Kingsnake "Gentoo"
1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Indigo"
1.0 Snow Corn snake "Chile"

0.1 Australian Cattle Dog/Pointer
"Kira"

C'mon Ron, give us a little credit, we're certainly no Florida or California, but we do fine The Indy show brings in far more people than a lot of shows in bigger cities.
Breeders in Indiana? My focus is pretty limited but off the top of my head I can come up with myself, Circle City Serpents, Bradford Cole Herps, Midwest Reptiles, Hoosier Reptiles, Exotic Ball Python....(and just slightly further away is Reptilian Projects and Nature's Spirit) and those are mostly just ball python people. Guess I'm not sure what you consider breeders and what you mean by 'garage' people. I know several more that have collections of 20-50 that breed as well, certainly not major companies or websites that you've heard of but they're breeders and herpers nonetheless.
Jason @ Jason's Jungle

I am from Indiana, sure none of the “big” breeders live in this state, but I do know a handful of people here that do keep more then just your average reptile. I am housing close to 200 Ball Pythons myself at this current moment, and my numbers are increasing monthly! As far as a website, well I am lacking in that department, BUT Matt Gillette of Perfect 7 Productions will have that taken of for me say right around the time of the Daytona Expo! We have had a pretty good year so far and we still have females that haven’t dropped eggs! Check out our website in August! Feel free to contact us with any questions or if we can help in any way!

219 743 3337

www.exoticballpythons.com

Bryan Kollwitz

This is one of OUR 2004 Graziani Line Cinnamon Pastels!

Link

coming to Pa?.........

..........LOL
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people???.........people are stupid.........
really???......really.........

How does this differ from a blushing normal? I can't tell the difference from the photo.

thanks

The Cinnamon Pastel was first proven genetic by Greg Graziani in 2002. This new morph has no yellow in it at all, it also has a clear patternless belly with a silver stripe through the eye. This mutation will also produce "Pewter Pastels" when bred with a "Pastel" Ball Python, and when bred to another "Cinnamon Pastel" they produce a "Super Cinnamon" which a basically a brown and black patternless snake.

Hope this helps.

Bryan

Thanks for the info!

I picked up a super blushing female recently and I have to check her when I get home to see if she exhibits the under-belly/coloring qualities (and eyes) that you've described.

Your animal is beautiful nonetheless

Bryan