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At what age/size can they be sexed? Do they have to be probed in order to be 100% sure? Also, I have never performed the process of "popping out a hemi penis/clitoris" can someone possibly explain this? Thanks a bunch guys.

Joe

no, sexing the gouldi complex does not mean probing.

the most sure way to tell is if a female lays eggs. however, its a lot simpler than that, males look obvious and females look obvious.

here is a male argus i hatched out, the bulge and neck definitions are obvious. if yours does not have these then it is probably a female, if it does it is a male.

andrew

"males look obvious and females look obvious."

"if yours does not have these then it is probably a female"

That doesnt make much sense to me, other then your saying it is either a male or a female haha

just playing.

i mean, there are always exceptions in deformed looking animals. like the other day when a kid posted a blackthroat pic, the animal had a female head and was overweight on top of that, but Robyn said it was his animal, came from him and that it was a male.

if you have had them long enough and they are in your care constantly it is hard not to know. i think what happens most of the time with these questions is people wanting to believe it is a female.

andrew

I don't swing that way.

I was not talking about my animals or yours. I was reffering to you saying it is obvious then claiming it probable. if something is obvious it is obvious not probably. Do you not know the defenition of those words?

Are you talking about a hemipenal bulge? Also, what about the neck? Mine is long and slender...

dude, i don't know what to tell you, only that if you own one, you know, whether you want to or not.

and yes i was talking about a hemipenal bulge

andrew

many people make this whole game (keeping monitors or reptiles in general) much harder than it is.

i don't know why but i have a couple ideas. either they try to outsmart the animals themselves, they are overly anal, or making it more complicated (involving more) makes it more fun to own the animal (wierd).

andrew

it doesn't matter what kind of cage you use, with a lot of reptiles the substrate does not matter (it is also highly variable in monitors), cage furniture does not matter as long as it works, what you feed doesn't matter (to a degree) like with monitors it does not matter if you feed it the turkey diet, road killed rat snakes, chicks, mice, rats, etc.

if i keep my bredli in plastic bins on newspaper and feed them chicks, is mine any less healthy than the person who goes out and buys a 400 dollar vision, keeps it on dcl and feeds it rats?

no.

sorry, i got off topic a bit, but it makes the point. keep it simple, do what you will, don't second guess your monitors.

and btw, if you are so curious about the sex because you want to breed argus, buy a proven female and see what happens, if they both lay eggs you can go out and buy a female and have twice the clutches. argus are easy to breed.

andrew

"buy a proven female and see what happens, if they both lay eggs you can go out and buy a female and have twice the clutches. "

So Joe has a female buy's a proven female both lay eggs, Joe then is to buy another female and have twice the clutches???

He may get more eggs but if he has 3 girls all will be infertile.

Or did you mean to buy a male perhaps?

n/p

Hey Joe,

I noticed your questions have yet to be answered clearly. So might i suggest you post a pic of your animal- Head and tail base from different angles then ask if its male/female. You'll probably get the answer you're looking for. Just my .02
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no, it was answered clearly and a picture of a male was pictured. from that point it is easy to discern male from female.

if he wants to believe it is a female nothing will stop him.

andrew

Why do you assume that I'm telling myself/wishing it's a female? Did it ever occur to you that I'm simply curious about the sex of an animal that I spend a lot of time and money caring for? You don't know me, you don't know my intentions. Seriously, unless you're going to post something halfway decent (a blurry pic of an argus head, with no comparison, and no view of the bulge is no good), no longer reply to my posts, because you are a rude person, or you just think you know all and that you're better than others.

i took the time to give you a very non-blurry pic of a monitors head and for anybody, joe blow even, the bulge was obvious.

figure it out for yourself then.
andrew

Thank you! I still don't know if it's old enough to sex yet. I doubt it is, just about 2 ft. now... but I will post anyway.