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What would one expect to pay for......

B2 Berg Jul 14, 2004 10:27 AM

a 2002 female albino and a 2001 female het for albino, both unproven?

I'm not that familiar with ball python prices and your input would be appreciated.

Barry

Replies (8)

arboreals Jul 14, 2004 02:59 PM

If it is a visable albino it doesn't have to be proven. W.C. Albinos go for as much or more then c.b.b. ones. Look between 2k-3k. Het albinos alone as low as 800.

John

a 2002 female albino and a 2001 female het for albino, both unproven?

I'm not that familiar with ball python prices and your input would be appreciated.

Barry

B2 Berg Jul 14, 2004 03:09 PM

by "proven", I meant neither female has been bred and in turn produced offspring.

I've seen babies priced at what you noted. What I'm trying to find out is the value of an over 800 gram female albino (2 years old) as well as a 1,100 gram female het for albino (3 years old)

Thanks again,

Barry.

igr Jul 14, 2004 04:10 PM

It sounds like these snakes have been somewhat finicky eaters or fed too little, maybe both... This could mean different things to different buyers. A 2yr. old male should be over 1000 by now, and of the females I have that are 3 yrs. and up, over 2000 before breeding.

If the snakes were just being fed too little... you could have them ready to breed in no time and a buyer may be willing to pay 25%-100% more for the older animals. On the other hand, they just may be one of those really shy or picky feeders and in that case may be slightly less inclined to breed than a normal captive. This potential customer might feel that this risk negates the benefit of breeding them sooner.

You would have to give some more details about their history and what you know about the owner to make a better judgement call.

Hope this helps.

jyohe Jul 14, 2004 05:14 PM

ok.....800 gram 2 year old?....feed more man......800 gram is 1 year old......

1200 gram is more like 2 year old..

and a 3 year old can weigh 4 pounds......

anyways........

albinos...$2000.....baby....so......year old = maybe even 3000$....so a 2 year old is at least....$3500 or more......

......het albino...was 800$ female before...this year ($600 pr).......so....I got a year old 2 years ago...for about 800$.....anyways......

800....add 3 years.....(they should be proven by then )......let's say about......$1000 to $2000.....depending?.......

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have fun.........

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people???.........people are stupid.........
really???......really.........

jmartin104 Jul 14, 2004 04:04 PM

What are their weights? One might expect a 2001 100% het albino female to have been bred by now. The larger the females, the more money you should expect to pay. For example, let's say you pay 5K for a 1500 gram albino female. If you breed her to an albino male and produce 5 good eggs, you can easily get your money back and more.
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Jay A. Martin

mariasman Jul 14, 2004 10:22 PM

a 2002 female albino and a 2001 female het for albino, both unproven?

Female albino: $2000-3000.... price depending upon her size, color and contrast, history, and who's selling her.

Het albino female: $750-$1250.... price depending upon her size, history, and who's selling her.

(BTW... someone posted that a 2001 female "should have bred by now"... this is untrue. The fact is that about half or slightly more female balls will actually produce before 3 years of age.... if she is approaching or greater than 1500 grams now, then the chance is high that she will produce this next season.)

mariasman Jul 14, 2004 10:32 PM

I just caught the weights posted...

The 2001 female at 1100 grams is a bit small, but it's not terribly uncommon for a picky eater to be this size as this age. As long as she can be shown to have a very high liklihood of being het albino, then I would price her at no lower than $750 and no higher than $1000.

The 2002 albino female at 800 grams is also a bit small.... however, as long as the person who gets her treats her well then she is still likely to produce during the 2006 season.... understand that most female ball pythons are not going to produce until they are greater than 3 years of age (although about 50% of females will produce before 3 if kept optimally).... I would price her at no less than $2000 and as high as $3000 (but only if she's a screamer.... REAL pretty).

B2 Berg Jul 15, 2004 09:46 AM

my balls. I've primarily worked with boas the last 15 years.
Being unfamiliar witht he ball market, I was looking for some pricing guidelines. Your responses on their weight was not unexpected.

All three balls were great frozen thawed rat eaters in the begining. The albino just got picky this year, and now will only eat live or prekilled mice. The het pair did basically the same. They're healthy, beautiful animals, but I fully realize they're not getting the food volume they should.

It's quite frustrating as in contrast I'm so use to boas who never refuse a meal, no matter what. I can't image having a large collection of balls if they have this tendency.

In any case, thanks again for all your help.

Barry

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