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so, what does everybody have these days? where is your collection plan headed? what are your breeding plans for this year and next year? whether you have one or 100, what do you have in the way of kings?

Dave B
currently:
1.2 normal brooks (normal only in genotype; excellent phenotype)
2.1 2x het for ghost
3.4 hypos- one flame, several hi orange and aberrant. Beard,Love,Krysko and Fengya origins
0.1 axanthic het hypo
1.2 ghost
1.2 white brooks (from Brandon Osborne's big whitie female)
1.0 eastern king Will Still line from Keith. an awesome crawling garbage can.

future acquisitions:
eastern kings
white sided brooks
who know what else will come up?!?!?

future breeding:
-hopefully find out method of inheritance with Brandon's white brooks. ( Brandon if you know please post)
-kind of like Rainer has done, possibly find new pattern/color traits within hypomelanistic brooks.
-cross the white side trait into high orange hypos, and ghost morph.
and of course there are always the pines...

Just keeping it to kings...

Not having a suitable partner I put my Brooks together with a Fla female that he mounted at least three times with no effect. I changed his name to DUD STUD.

My big King project is a pair of S. Florida Mole kings (the rarer twin spot form from Desoto County) I hope to breed in two years (though I have a friend who is producing litters now).

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

sorry about the dud but it would be very cool to see pics of your mole kings when you get them.
dB

Here'e my list:

Brooksi
1.1 Flames het/poss. het hypo
1.0 Orange Hypo
1.1 N.E. Axanthic
2.0 Lemke Axanthic
1.2 White het Axanthic.....and Dave, I have no idea what the deal is with the Whites. I got my original female 10 years ago as a normal brooksi het for axanthic.
1.0 Extreme Orange Lavender
1.1 Extreme Sulphur Yellow
1.2 DH Ghost
0.1 Snow

Other King/Milks/Colubrids
1.1 Het Hypo Hondurans
1.3 Apalachicola Kings
2.2 Leucistic TX. Ratsnakes......and the biggest pr. I've ever seen.

Pythons
5.4.21 Green Tree Pythons
1.1 Het Pie Bald Ball Pythons
0.5 Normal Ball Pythons

Maybe soon we'll figure out the White gene in the brooksi. I didn't get that many eggs this year, but the youngsters will be ready for next year.......and that calls for breeding white to white.

Brandon Osborne

Brandon-
do you remember if the het axanthism in big whitie was linked to a particular line ( Llemke/N.E.) or do you suspect it to be from another origin?

21gtp hatchlings? good work. looks like "God's favorite snakes" were good to you.
keep me informed on what your kings hatch out and when the cd is good to go.

Brandon-
do you remember if the het axanthism in big whitie was linked to a particular line ( Llemke/N.E.) or do you suspect it to be from another origin?

21gtp hatchlings? good work. looks like "God's favorite snakes" were good to you.
keep me informed on what your kings hatch out and when the cd is good to go.

Dave,

the het axanthism is linked to the Lemke line. I don't suspect it's anything other than a really nice normal brooksi color.

As far as the GTPs go, I didn't do too bad this year....other than one of my 3 year old females passing away for no simple reason at all. She was one of my favorite snakes that I had produced.......not to mention a super high yellow animal. This year has sucked. I hope it's going better for everyone else.

And the CD should be done soon..........hopefully. We've remixed it twice, and we're going back for a third time. I'm ready to finish it. It's been 5 months of headaches. I'll let you know when it's done.

Brandon Osborne

Let see

2.3 NJ Eastern Kings
1.0 Monmouth Co. locale
1.0 Monmouth X Burlington
0.2 Burlington Locale
0.1 Monmouth X Burlington

1.0 Non Locality Eastern
Ted Thompson (N. Carolina X Maryland)

1.0 Georgia Eastern (Enge/Still)
2003 hatch produced by W. Still

0.1 Georgia Eastern (2003)
2003 Hatch Dodge Co. locale

1.0 Outer Banks King (loose in my house!)
Bartlet Stock

1.0 Brooksi Kingsnake
Big Yellow Brooksi het for Hypo (see pic)
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Well Let's see....

Kingsnakes:

2.3.9 california kings. One of my female kings just escaped (discovered this morning when I went to see if she'd laid eggs) Another clutch is finishing hatching out with one baby still in the egg. I'll be posting pictures of the babies later on in the week after they shed. Next year I will breed all three females. This year I bred the escapee (who had 15 eggs that all died) and another one.

0.2 Apalachicola Kings. (the young one pictured below) My male died this year, I am currently saving up the money to get an '03 or older male to breed to my females next year.

(1).1 Arizona Mountain Kings. The male is only on breeding loan, though it didn't take this year. IF I keep the male through the spring I might get some hatchlings, otherwise I'll just continue to have the one beautiful female.

0.0.1 Splendida... purchased as an Eastern Chain ... If it's a female I will possibly cross her with my aberrant banded cal king male in the spring. If it's a male it will not be bred until/unless I get a female splendida.

1.2 Floridana... just little ones hatched in december '03.

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Non Kingsnakes:

Current Corn collection:
1.0 Stripe het Amel
0.1 Stripe Anery
0.1 Hypo(?) het Amel
1.0 Hurricane Snow Motley
1.1 Anery
0.1 Amel/Creamsicle
Soon to be acquired and kept as the classroom pets:
1.0 Creamsicle
0.1 Normalsicle het for creamsicle

Cornsnake Plans for next year>... Stripe x Stripe, Snow x Hypo, Anery x Anery, Creamsicle x Normalsicle.

Also have:

1.0 Jurassic Milk... I plan to try to cross him to the amel/creamsicle corn.

and

1.3 Ball Pythons who may someday breed....

Wish List...

1. Find homes for those ball pythons. Too difficult & boring.
2. I would love a pair of Amazon Tree Boas
3. Male Appalachicola King
4. Pair of Mexican Black Kings
5. Female Jurassic Milk

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~Sasheena

3.0 South Carolina Easterns, Orangeburg county
1.1 Easterns, sold to me as N. Florida locale, but not sure
0.1 non-locale Eastern
1.1 snow corns
0.1 amelanistic corn (my old lady, 13 years now)
0.1 anerythristic corn (12 years old)
2.1 Florida kings
1.0 Brooks
2.0 Normal corns South Carolina locale
0.0.1 Black Rat South Carolina locale (possessed by the devil)

Todd

P.S. Anyone with a spare Eastern Female, let me know, I,m heavy on males, as you can see.

Where did the N Florida Locale animals come from ?

Keith

>>3.0 South Carolina Easterns, Orangeburg county
>>1.1 Easterns, sold to me as N. Florida locale, but not sure
>>0.1 non-locale Eastern
>>1.1 snow corns
>>0.1 amelanistic corn (my old lady, 13 years now)
>>0.1 anerythristic corn (12 years old)
>>2.1 Florida kings
>>1.0 Brooks
>>2.0 Normal corns South Carolina locale
>>0.0.1 Black Rat South Carolina locale (possessed by the devil)
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>>Todd
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>>P.S. Anyone with a spare Eastern Female, let me know, I,m heavy on males, as you can see.
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Keith, I got them as yearlings recently from a dealer on kingsnake classifieds. He told me the breeder stated the parents were from the "Florida panhandle." Since I have no way to verify, I'll just list any offspring I produce from them in the future as non-locale.

Also I forgot earlier 1.0.1 Apalachicola kings

Heres my short list of kings..............

1.1 Axanthic brooksi( Lemke stock)
1. het hypo brooksi( a big lonely guy lookin for love!)
1.1 cal kings
1.2 eastern chains( directly from Will Still... nice to live in the same city as him. And yes, his chains are amazing!)

Also...... balls, kenyan sands, rough scale sands, a beautiful hypo whitewater rosy, and a few other things.

I am cutting down the colubrid sde of the collection but the hethyp brooksi and trio of chains will remain. Hopefully, I can pair up the het hypo,and work on my own abberant chain next year! Ken

Lets see, I currently have:

0.1 - Anery Motley Corn Snake

0.0.1 - California King - Pretty sure it is male but didn't have it probed yet. Maybe I'll take a pic and someone could take a guess for me.

1.0 - Yellow Rat snake - This guy is out somewhere in my house. Been over a month. No trails in flour,no sheds,no skat,Nothing at all. I just ordered a 2003 yellow rat snake from Terry Parks.I'll be getting him on the 23rd.

I can tell by looking at a rat snake/corn snake what the sex of the snake is...but I have seen a few kings and can't tell them apart but like I said I am 'guessing' that mine is a male.

Ok here goes. I downsized over the last year so not much and nothing special but here are ma babies:

7.5 California kingsnakes (banded, striped, aberrant, banana,
& albino)
2.1 S.GA Eastern Kingnakes (Will Still '02 & '03 stock)
1.0 Sinaloan Milksnake ('02, looking for female plz!)
1.1 Mexican Black Kingsnakes
1.0 'Sinocal' Milk/King hybrid
1.0 WC Eastern Milk
Only 11 Cal King eggs cooking this year but they all look good!

1.1 Mexican Rosy Boas
0.1 Borneo Blood Python
0.1 Ball Python

1.1 Rankins Bearded Dragons
1.0 Savannah Monitor

0.1 Rose hair tarantula
2.1 Housecats
3.1 Homo Sapiens (3 juveniles, 1 adult male that still exhibits
juvenile behaviour lol)

We also have a 30g tank full of plants and fish, mainly of the tetra family, 6 large (and many baby) rats, and I can't count the number of mice here at any given time, lol!

I would at some point like to add the following to my collection:
1.1 Goini/Apachicola kingsnakes
0.1 Sinaloan Milksnake
1.1 Black kings
1.1 Thayeris
1.1 Axanthic Brooksis
1.1 White-sided speckled kings (dream on right? lol)
?.? Striped/regular Agkistrodon Contortrix
?.? Agkistrodon Howardgloydi

Think at this point I WANT more than I actually HAVE! lol
~Roo
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"Klaatu...Verata...Nicht--cough, cough, cough!"

well lets see i will just list adults that should produce next season
2.4 easterns(1male being chleo) others non-locale
2.2 s.blacks l.g.nigra
1.1 yuma az l.g.yumensis
1.2 specks l.g.holbrooki
1.2 prarie king l.c.calligaster
1.1 fla kings,, drk ones
1.1 lav.albino brooks fla.kings from j.cherry
im sure ive forgot some stuff i also have lots of babies and some intergrades that im working with
getula rule!!!
thomas davis

that one with the high band count is cool.

im sure your collection is massive ....Chris

actually I can't remember everything.

hope you dont NAME your rodents LOL.......like frosty,lil live guy,red eye, cutie,ok frezen burn, day old , thawed again and damn i thought there was a chicken in here...........Chris

Limiting my list to only the kings:

1.1 Alterna (Grayband), both '99 (?) blair's phase, locale unknown
0.1 Floridiana/Getula (Peninsula Intergrade), '03 (below)

Future plans are to continue attempting to breed the Graybands, otherwise I have no plans to breed. Someday I'd love to obtain a nice OBK.

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MichaelB

2.0 wild brooks
1.1 n.e.axanthic
1.1 yellow hypo
1.1 D.H.peanut butter x hypo
1.0 hypo het ghost
0.1 axan het ghost
0.1 normal brooks egg bound i think
1.4 het whiteside poss axan (newbies)
0.1 axan poss w/s
0.1 Ga. eastern
1.1 w. hogs
1.0 alb. tri hondo
0.3 het alb tang hondos
1.4 black milks
1.1 red milk het hypo
a few Cals and many corns, oh yeah Lizards!

Ok, I see others posting all kinds of snakes so here goes...

1.1 Florida Kings

0.1 poss. Het/Albino
1.0 Albino

0.1 Eastern King

1.0 Blue Racer

1.0 Midland Water Snake

0.1.3 Corns

0.1.2 Miami phase
0.0.1 normal

0.0.20 Miami phase cornsnake eggs

3.0 Rat snakes

1.0 Blackrat (poss. gray integrade)
1.0 yellow/black integrade
1.0 Everglades ratsnake

3.3 Ball Pythons

1.0 100% het albino
1.2 50% poss het/albino
1.1 normals

1.1 Columbian red-tail boas (0.1 salmon phase)

Immediate wishlist

Cooks tree boa

Brazilian Rainbow Boa

I just spent 2 hrs watering my snakes. I'm too dizzy to remember 'em! Let's just say I have representatives from zonata, calligaster, getula, pyromelana, alterna, mexicana, triangulum,and ruthveni. Lots of "normals" and a few "morphs" of different ssp. Most are common in the hobby. I think I'm glad I'm having an off year production wise. It'll give my breeders AND me a break. Of course it means all the up and coming for next year will be just that more fun too.
Maybe some ghost hondurans, ghost FL kings, that kind of thing. Hoping to add to my zonata. Possibly more locality mole kings. Eastern king collection growing as we speak. Who knows? Should be fun!
:Mark

I have.....

1.2- Cali Kings (Banana, Striped Desert, Snow Albino)
1.0- Hypo Florida King (Brooksi)
0.1- Mexican Black
0.1- Knoblochi
1.0- Het/Hypo Tang. Honduran

Not really looking for anything now, but down the road, I'd like to get a reduced black Knoblochi, possibly another Hypo Brooks and/or Axanthic, and a Hypo or het/hypo Hondo.
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Ace

It is a small list, I have limited available space or time.

1.1 albino easterns
0.2 het albino easterns
1.1 Maryland locality easterns (Piedmonts)
1.0 mexican black

Soon to arrive from Rainer
1.1 NE axanthic brooksi
1.1 Peanut Butter brooksi

And hopefully a couple of black/clear bellied easterns from Will Still. I want to try to determine the inheritance of that trait.

Next year I hope to produce albinos and hets from the above list. The Maryland female won't be old enough to breed next year so the big guy is available for hire Keith, Peter, Somebody...lol

Bob Bull

One corn snake, but I've only been back in the hobby two weeks !

However I spent fifteen years as a kid and young adult wanting a king without ever getting one, so I imagine that my next snake might be one.

Now only if one would show up in my yard like he cornsnake did.....

Lloyd Heilbrunn
Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.

Excellent question. I have:

3.5 Corn snake morphs
1.1 Greenville, SC locale E. Kings
1.0 N.E. Axanthic Brooks King
0.0.1 Speckled King
1.1 Arizona Mountain Kings
1.2 Peruvian Redtail Boas
2.2 Colombian Boa morphs
1.1 Rainbow Boas
1.1 Carpet Pythons
1.0 Russells Viper

My plans are to get a few more corns and kings. Start Honduran Milk project. Get some Womas. And perhaps a few other colubrids to try out. I love this hobby.

Dan

o.o Russell's Viper eh? Beautiful animals. Thought about getting one myself. Whats the temperament on him like?
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"Klaatu...Verata...Nicht--cough, cough, cough!"

The Russells was a real hothead at first. Every time he felt threatened he would hiss loud. It scares the livin daylights out of visitors and anyone not used to it. With age he settled down. Now he occasionally gets riled up. Rarely has he tried to bite. He rides a hook well and eats like a champ. But every once in a while is gets mad but has really been pretty easy to work with. Just don't get bit because this is about as bad as it gets.

Dan

Just don't get bit because this is about as bad as it gets.

Yeah, I know! That's what's been keeping me from seriously looking into acquiring one as I have small kids in the house. I'm not huge into venomous. I don't have any hots right now but had timber rattlers and an albino forest cobra in the past, as well as a nice but badly scarred southern copperhead I rescued from the lawnmower, treated, kept, and then released him when we moved back up north. I really have an affinity for Copperheads and Lanceheads for some reason. Gaboons are gorgeous as well, and as previously stated I think Russells are beautiful. But I'm definitely a kingsnake gal at heart!
Thanks for the info
~Roo

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"Klaatu...Verata...Nicht--cough, cough, cough!"

nice hearin ,thought it was just me,restricted aussies(export),great hobby enjoy ....Chris

My girlfriend and I keep:
2.5 alterna
1.1 knobs
1.1 california
1.1 thayeri
0.1 speckeled

Next year I am planning on breeding the CA kings, a couple pair of generic alterna, a pair of loma alta alterna, and the knobs.

9.14 Easterns of various locales
2.2 Easterns non locale
2.3 Albino and het Easterns
1.1 high yellow Floridas
1.1 Brooksi
1.1 Albino Florida
4.5 Hatteras OBK's
7.15 California Kings/ desert, albino desert,albino,coastal,banana
1.1 Eastern Milks
1.2 Gray Bands
1.1 Albino Nelsons
.1 Nelsons
1.1 Desert Kings

Pines
2.1 Louisiana
2.3 NJ Northerns
.1 Albino Northern
1.1 Albino Florida
1.1 Pink Patternless Florida
1.1 Florida

Boas

1.1 Bolivian Silverbacks
1.1 Albinos
1.1 South Brazillians
1.2 Hog Islands
2.3 Argentines
2.3 Columbian

Corns
2.4 Haphazzard Road Okeetee
1.1 Okeettee

i forgot to add the boids
1.2 brazilian rainbows
1.1 columbian R.T.
Oh yeah
1.0 patternless Apalathacola King
0.3 red Apalatchacola
Damn im an addict, WooHooo
Rumer has it" if i keep feeding these things Ill need bigger boxes (just keep em seperated and they wont breed) LMAO Chris

Man, I'm gone a day and this Forum takes off. Anyway, what I have

Corns 1.2 Butter, Okeetee and reverse Okeetee

Eastern King 1.0 South Carolina locality

Grey-Banded King 0.0.1 This Alterna never misses a meal

Mexican Black king 1.0 Lemke bloodline. This 04 male Nigrita that I just purchased from John Cherry is huge, and comes from some very nice parents that produce pretty large nigrita that average 4 1/2 feet. The mother of mine alone is around 5 foot.

Ball Python 1.0 Very nice normal 03 male, also from John Cherry. Colubrids have always been my love, but my wife has always wanted a Ball Python, and I must say he's an awesome snake.

Trans Peco Ratsnake 0.1 Van Horn, Tx locality

Next snake on my order list Bairdi Ratsnake

1.0 brooksi (homemade '02)
0.1 het hybino (Isis Reptiles '03)
0.1 snow floridana (Gulf Coast Reptiles '01)
1.0 floridana het axanthic, poss. white-sided (Walter Smith '01)
1.0 lav floridana (John Staursky '00)

Next year I plan on breeding the het axanthic to the snow, and the following year the lav to the snow.

--fliptop

Kingsnakes (getulus):

0.1 '01 normal brooksi
1.0 adult lavender brooks het. for snow
2.0 '02 hypo brooksi (one just turned into a male)
1.2 '03 axanthic brooksi
3.0.12 '04 normal brooks het. for lavender, poss. het for snow
1.0 '01 mexican black
1.1 '03 Yuma kings
1.1 '03 Crane Cty. TX splendita

other lampropeltis:

1.1 '02 albino L.c. calligaster
0.1 '02 MO locale L.c. calligaster
2.0 WC L.t.triangulum Vermillion Cty., IN

Other snakes:

0.1 '01 Ocala Pinesnake
1.0 '02 leucistic florida pine
1.1 '03 Anza Borrego rosy boas
1.0 WC foxsnake...rescue of unknown origin
1.0 '03 oketee cornsnake

Other herps:
0.1 WC fire skink
1.0 WC green frog
0.1 WC southern leopard frog
1.0 WC common snapping turtle
1.1 WC american toads

Wow, hadn't though about it like that in a while...I need more animals. lol

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