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Question about force feed hatched vipers.

a_chen_tw Jul 15, 2004 10:28 AM

Hi all , I purchased some hatched pit vipers from a breeder in Germany . Therefore , I found the babies are no feeding . They will attack pinkies , but never ate . I asked the breeder about this problem and he answered I must force feed the hacted pit vipers until they possible eat themselves . He said , he force feed the hatched vipers 1 week ~ 2 weeks a 1 day old pinky .

I don't have pinky press and I don't want I will been biten by the young devils .

Could you offer some recommends about how to force feed the hatched pit vipers without any danger ?

Thanks .

Replies (2)

jgragg Jul 15, 2004 11:59 AM

hi,

well, you've found yourself in a situation. sounds like the guy who sold the snakes wasn't of the highest character. care to share his name? he should have told you the snakes weren't taking food on their own, and you should have asked before buying. shame on you both; live and learn though.

so, what kind of snake are these babies? it matters, since it will indicate what sorts of things they might rather eat (insects, frogs, lizards, etc). how big/old are they? when did they last eat?

you may not have to resort to force-feeding at all (let's hope so). the fact that the snakes kill things is a good start. sometimes you get shy snakes that won't even strike, that's harder to work with. offering the right prey item, the right way, might cure your problem.

if you do end up needing to force-feed, or assist-feed, maybe you can use something other than mouse parts, that are easier to get in and down. lizards, for example, are a better shape than pinkies. if the patient isn't too far gone, i prefer to assist-feed rather than force-feed, so they get the taste of food in their mouth and they have to work their jaws and throat muscles. training the body before the mind, so to speak. mrs tt has a good webpage on assist- and force-feeding, showing the use of restraining tubes (you need to get or make yourself some of these tubes).

finally, don't give up hope, and don't rush into force-feeding. i've had baby and adult snakes i force- or assist-fed for over a year, that ended up taking food on their own and being good captives. but i always give snakes a couple of months, minimum, to eat on their own first. that usually works. success really depends largely on your determination to make things go your way, and your creativity in tricking or helping the snake do what you want.

cheers,
jimi

Carmichael Jul 18, 2004 03:28 PM

Knowing what kinds of "vipers" these are is critical in not only determining what type of prey to offer, but it will also determine the feeding strategy to put into motion. For example, for my baby white lipped vipers (T. albolabris), I tease feed babies pinky parts w/a little vitamin. This is simply gently tapping the snake on the nose or neck (or tail) with a pinky part via long forceps...it will usually take a few tries until the snake strikes and gets a fank hooked on to the prey item. From there, you must sit motionless in hopes that a feeding/swallowing response will ensue. If the viper is a strike and let go species, you will use a different method. Give us some more info. Rob

Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
City of Lake Forest Parks & Recreation (IL)

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