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caging question

mike d Jul 15, 2004 01:39 PM

i have had bearded dragons before and i am looking to get back into them again..

in a month i will be building a cage for my igg and he cant climb(previous owners=bad=long story)

so i am going to be making him a cage like this

and i want to get something to put on the bottom part of the cage. and i got to thinking and i came up with alot of things but i am leaning twords bearded dragons..

now my question is how many do you think would be a good number of dragons for the cage?

and i want to buy baby ones but alot of the times they are just sold unsexed.. what problems would i run buying a group? would they all get along when older? or should i buy individually?

Thanks
Mike
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kephy Jul 15, 2004 01:57 PM

A quick search through this forum will bring you a lot of answers, we've talked about this a lot, but I'll sum it up for you.

The only way to succesfully keep multiple beardies together is if they are all females. More than one male to a cage will result in fighting, injuries, and possibly death. Males an females together will result in breeding. Constant breeding at that, which can put enourmous stress on the female which can lead to so many things like she may stop eating, or she may get defensive and fight him off, injuring him. Also, since you're getting babies, they would breed long before she is ready, physically. Females should be about 1.5 years old before allowing them to become gravid. Also if you get them from the same breeder or pet store, you may end up with siblings and then you would be inbreeding them, which is REALLY bad. Even if you make sure to get all females, there is no guarantee they will get along, and you should be prepared to seperate them at any time.

Also, if I understand correctly, it sounds like you want to put the beardies in the same cage with the iguana? If that's the case it's a very bad idea. You shouldn't mix species. They need different husbandry conditions, and parasites that may be fine for one species may be hazardous to the other, and these are lizards which can be very territorial and agressive.

My honest opinion is that if you want the best, most stress-free environment for all your reptiles, give them each their own enclosure. Forcing them into the same space, whether with their own species or not, is stressful and unatural to them. It can potentially do a lot more harm than good.
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1.0 cat (Wally)
0.1 dog (Tima)

mike d Jul 15, 2004 02:01 PM

no tehy will have there own enclosures.. they will be seperated there will be a solid floor between the two cages so tehy cant get at each other.. i keep on forgeting to post that.. i never keep two different speicies together..

sorry for the confusion..
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kephy Jul 15, 2004 02:13 PM

Oh, no problem.

So that picture, are we looking at it from the top or the side? I don't know exactly how much ground space an iguana needs, I know it's a lot. A full grown beardie will need about 6 sq feet of floor space for itself, so as long as there is that much room, plus enough room for your iguana I don't see a problem with stacking cages. I'm gonna build my two beardies some stacking cages when I get a chance.

If I were you, I'd maybe flip it so the iguana is on bottom and the beardie is on top, since the iguana is so much heavier, and will need more room. That way the cage won't be top heavy, it will probably be more sturdy that way. Just my opinion.
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1.0 cat (Wally)
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