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I'm the worst Tegu owner ever....

Tegan Jul 15, 2004 03:59 PM

Just got back from the vet...he thinks the poor little guy may already have gang-green in his legs. He thinks its some sort of bactirial or fungal infection that got out of control. He made me feel like such an idiot. I know I deserved it...but it really didn't help me any.

I wish I would have noticed how bad it was sooner...I just thought it was some stuck shed to start with and that it would have come off in a few days by raiseing the humidity...by the time I knew how bad it was it was too late.

We're going to try Baytril for two weeks (maybe longer) and Betadine/Neosporian on his sores. He says it doesn't look very good...he's past the point were amputation would have helped if it is gang-green, and that we just need to cross our fingers and pray.

I feel like someone should come and take ALL my reptiles away from me...I dont deserve them...I'm the worst person ever.
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Tegan

Replies (4)

the-vandyl Jul 15, 2004 04:40 PM

you don't own reptiles, you keep them, thats what differentiates them from domestic animals, they have very specific requirements...

analyze what the setup you were using had wrong with it and go from there, sounds like really high humidity and maybe the wrong type of bedding, or fungal growth due to overwatering....hang in there and try again, but learn from your mistakes
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Craig

kap10cavy Jul 15, 2004 08:23 PM

The most important thing right now is the animal. Do what you can and realize the mistake you made. We all make mistakes, it's learning from them that is important.
Maybe some good will come from this. Other people might read about it and start paying closer attention.

Good Luck
Scott
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Tegan Jul 15, 2004 09:38 PM

Thanks Craig....I needed a slap in the face to get me thinking straight again. Your absolutly right...I dont own that little guy...I keep him. I'm totally responsible for every facite of his well being...and that's why I'm so torn up about this.

About three weeks ago I moved him into a smaller cage (he was in a 7'Lx3'Wx1'H). I couldn't keep temps where I wanted in his larger cage, so I moved him into a 40gal breeder to control the temps better and so that I could put some bedding in there that he could dig in. This was all to be temporary until I got a new cage built. So going through my list of bedding material I didn't feel like useing top soil or a soil/sand mixture. I've had problems in the past with rot gnats from that...and while they are harmless they are a total pain in the butt. So I decided to give cocoanut bedding a try. I mixed it up per the derections on the label and I thought it was awefully damp...but the AC is running in our house it's been esp dry...so I figured the extra moisture would be gone in no time. I'm pretty sure the extra moisture in the bedding is what did it. I'm just sorry now that I didn't listen to the nagging little voice in my head that told me not to do it.

You can bet your rear end I've learned from this and I'll never let a stupid mistake happen like this again....I just wish he wasn't the one that had to pay for it.

I hope others do learn from my mistake, so that their charges dont suffer like mine is. Listen to the little voices that nag at you from the corners of your mind...I knew better then this...but didn't listen...and he has to pay for it.
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Tegan

St.Pierre Jul 19, 2004 03:28 PM

If you don't want to have problems with your tegus toes use Cypress mulch , Eucalyptus mulch , Hemlock mulch , or Orchid Bark .
These mulches are all safe for reptiles
...when lightly misted they hold a good ambient humidity
... their texture helps to slough of old shed from the tegus toes
... they do not readly grow mold like many other types of bedding
... they do not clump up when moist and stick to the tegus feed
... they are realativly easy to find in garden centers (Home Depot , Lowes , Target , Walmart etc.) and are usually a lot less costly than most other beddings .

Keep 3-4 inches of the mulch in the bottom of your tegus cage and pack his hide box with it so he can dig around in his hide box . ( I don't keep more than 4inches of mulch in any tegu cage I have including adults - this is plenty for them to dig around in ) Change the mulch frequently . If you want you can clean the mulch and reuse it over and over again (get yourself a screen that you can put it on and hose it down good .. put it in a bucket and soak in a little bit of bleach and water .. put it back on the screen and hose it down very well to remove all the bleach .. let it dry fully in the sun before you reuse it )

As far as using garden soils go in tegus cages it's more trouble than it's worth . Most garden /yard soils are not suitable for tegus (if you can't grow pampass grass in it your soil holds much to much water - pampass grass needs even moisture and can not tolerate having it's feet wet - these are the plants that grow where tegus make their burrows ) Clay type soils will dry hard on their toes , loams hold to much water , most sandy soils are loaded with nematodes (at least they are in FLorida where I live ) I don't even use soil in my outdoor cages for my adults - if I used my garden soil my lizards would have constant skin problems . I use 3-4 inches of mulch in most of my outdoor cages , I do have a couple with play sand but I hate it cause it is messy and the lizards do not do any better on it . If you want to use a soil type mixture buy sterile play sand sold in your local garden center but this is very messy indoors .

As far as keeping your humidity up in most areas of the country you will only have to lightly mist your hide box once or twice per week even with central ac and or central heat running . The idea is to lightly mist and then let it dry out a bit before doing it again .

There is a lot of mis information on this forum . A lot of people give advice to use stuff that they have not thoughly tested . They don't do it out of malice , they do it because it is working for them right now but seasons change , enviromental conditions change so what may work for one person one month may cause them a whole lot of problems another month . I have tested just about every type of commercial bedding available on tegus and have never found anything that consistantly works better for them than these mulches I listed above.

Cypress mulch is a totally non toxcic wood . It grows in a swamp where they harvest the roots that rise above the water . For this wood to be able to survive rotting in this constant wetness it has to have natural properties that fight off fungal/mold growth . In many other countries where water is a precious (rare ) resource roofs of houses are built of of Cypress to collect the water for drinking .

Stella St.Pierre
BlueTegu.com - Ron St.Pierre
BlueTegu.com - Ron St.Pierre

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