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Can anyone direct me to a good budgett's frog care sheet. I can not seem to find one. I tried some searchs and came up with nothing.

Thank you
Christina
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0.0.1 Hatchling Indian Star Tortoise (Sitara)
1.1 Russian Tortoise (Willy & Mikey)
0.1 Ornate Box Turtle (Lily)
1.0 Red Eared Slider (Chester)
0.0.2 White's Tree Frog (Kermit & Phil)
0.0.1 Red eyed Tree Frog (Justin)
0.0.1 Big Eyed Tree Frog
0.0.2 Bubbling Frog
0.0.2 Tiger Leg Tree Frogs (Akari & Shiro)
0.0.3 Amazonian Milky Tree Frogs
0.0.1 Dwarf Megophrys
0.0.2 Rainbow Burrowing Frog/Ornate Hopper
0.0.1 Asian Blue Webbed Gliding Tree Frogs
0.0.1 Albino Pacman Frog
0.1 Praire Dog (Timmy)
0.2 Chinchillas (Layla & Snickers)
0.3 mice
0.1 dog (Holly)
2.0 Cats (Champ & Bear)

Oh and a husband

good luck finding one, I never did and gave up. I'm learning as I go along.

Oh, can you give some info on what you found out already. Obviously you are succesful!

Christina
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0.0.1 Hatchling Indian Star Tortoise (Sitara)
1.1 Russian Tortoise (Willy & Mikey)
0.1 Ornate Box Turtle (Lily)
1.0 Red Eared Slider (Chester)
0.0.2 White's Tree Frog (Kermit & Phil)
0.0.1 Red eyed Tree Frog (Justin)
0.0.1 Big Eyed Tree Frog
0.0.2 Bubbling Frog
0.0.2 Tiger Leg Tree Frogs (Akari & Shiro)
0.0.3 Amazonian Milky Tree Frogs
0.0.1 Dwarf Megophrys
0.0.2 Rainbow Burrowing Frog/Ornate Hopper
0.0.1 Asian Blue Webbed Gliding Tree Frogs
0.0.1 Albino Pacman Frog
0.0.1 Budgett's Frog
0.0.2 Starry Night Reed Frogs
0.1 Praire Dog (Timmy)
0.2 Chinchillas (Layla & Snickers)
0.3 mice
0.1 dog (Holly)
2.0 Cats (Champ & Bear)

Oh and a husband

hope this helps!
http://petplace.netscape.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=2236
and works...
this was my awesome budgett's frog,but he passed away awhile back due to some sort of infection...

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3 pacman frogs- adolf,mongo,and fatboy
1 Egyptian toad - harry
4 oriental firebelly toads - emily,sam,psychedellia,rudd
1 African red legged frog
1 Northern Leopard frog - tiny
1 pacific tree frog
1 southern toad
1 west african toad
1 Whites tree frog
1 american bullfrog
enjoy

hello. that care sheet was good. i just want to summarize my experience though. i got my budgett's no more than a year ago and it is already about 3" in diameter. what a little eater too. when it was smaller i would give him tadpoles and feeder goldfish. now it is mainly goldfish because tadpoles are too expensive, i have given him a mouse before though. clean water is critical with any amphibian, but budgett's seem to be on the hardier side, mine would dirty up his water like you wouldn't believe. i would clean it asap, but that didn't always mean then. it never seemed to bother him though. right now he is in a 29gal. w/ goldfish and 2 internal filters. the water is about 3" form the top of the tank and he seems to do ok. i am going to make him a viquarium though. i am going to silicone a sheet of glass in a ten gallon tank so he will have about one fifth soil to burrow in. most of the books say they do best longterm-wise
if they have an area of dirt(potting soil) go to to escape the water and estivate in. it would probably also help let you know when you to clean the enclosure because if the water is too toxic, as in waste build-up from insufficient filtration/water changes, the budgett's will simply get out. i hope this helps.

I have 7 budgetts. The oldest one being 1 yr and 7 months. I have not had any problems with any except one. I have not been able to find a care sheet either, but you can find some info on some pacman frog books. As of right now I have 2 males, and 5 females. In my opinion you do need to aestivate them. If you decide to put them in a vivarium with some land they will burrow into the ground and not come out, that is why I put them in only water until its time to aestivate them. I put them in very moist peat moss mixed in with bed a beast and then let dry out. I leave them in the dry subsrate for about 3 months and bring them out slowly. From the info that I have gotten, budgetts live in water and only burrow themselves in the very same mud that is underneath their water source when its starts drying out until there is no more water. By the time their water source has completely dried out they are already deep underground. Hope this helps.

Joel

Ok I just want to make sure that I have this straight.

I can put this guy in a 10 gallon. Maybe fill it halfway??? this way it is deep enough that I can have a filter in it. Would that be ok. Have some aquarium plants so that he can get to the surface for air, correct? Does he need the land area at all? Or just for estivation OR should try to setup a small land area for him in this 10 gallon.

What do you guys use for lighting and heat?

Thank you again
Christina
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0.0.1 Hatchling Indian Star Tortoise (Sitara)
1.1 Russian Tortoise (Willy & Mikey)
0.1 Ornate Box Turtle (Lily)
1.0 Red Eared Slider (Chester)
0.0.2 White's Tree Frog (Kermit & Phil)
0.0.1 Red eyed Tree Frog (Justin)
0.0.1 Big Eyed Tree Frog
0.0.2 Bubbling Frog
0.0.2 Tiger Leg Tree Frogs (Akari & Shiro)
0.0.3 Amazonian Milky Tree Frogs
0.0.1 Dwarf Megophrys
0.0.2 Rainbow Burrowing Frog/Ornate Hopper
0.0.1 Asian Blue Webbed Gliding Tree Frogs
0.0.1 Albino Pacman Frog
0.0.1 Budgett's Frog
0.0.2 Starry Night Reed Frogs
0.1 Praire Dog (Timmy)
0.2 Chinchillas (Layla & Snickers)
0.3 mice
0.1 dog (Holly)
2.0 Cats (Champ & Bear)

Oh and a husband

If you want to make a land area go ahead, but I really don't think you will see your frog again until you take the land area away (from my experience with these guys). Another thing, don't use gravel, these guys will eat it, that was one of my mistakes. It must have taken about five or six months for the gravel to come out of the budgetts that swallowed it (and it didn't come out the same way it came in), so I don't think that was a pleasant experience for them. A ten gallon is fine, but from what I have seen they don't seem to move at all, they just float at the bottom at a diagonal extending their head towards the surface. And don't feed them any mammals they will spit them back up almost all the time. I don't use any filters at all I just make very frequent water changes. They prefer very calm waters from what I have seen. I put a filter for awhile and the water current seem to bug them. Like I said earlier these guys live in watering holes that pop up and the dry hot in the summer. If you put artificial plants be careful they do not swallow them, they think everything is food. Hope that helps. Keep us updated on how your set up works as there is almost no info on budgetts and we need more people to talk about their experiences with them.

Joel

P.S. I noticed that you have some milk frogs, I am planning on getting some at the next reptile expo, any info on these guys? As I found that there is no care info on them either.

Ok one last question, the depth of the water it doesn't matter??? I mean the guy told me to just have it dep enough for it to cover his legs, I can defiantely go deeper, I don't want to drown him. I will try to get like those fake lilypads maybe or some with a solid rock base so there is nothing he can eat. Also if I use a substrate I wouldn't use like aquarium gravel but maybe like those sand pebbles I think they are called much too large for them to swallow.

Yeah I have the milky's they are great. They are one of my favorite b/c they are so active. Sometimes even during the day. The minute I put food in they jump around. Be carefully when changing water or cleaning tank they are quick little buggers.

I was actually unsuccesful with them at first so now I feel quite expereince with them. First of you really need to get CB's there are plenty out there and they are just far healthy less parasites etc. If you get them young they are very prone to drying out so they need a pretty high humidity like 80%. Otherwise they are pretty easy, basic vivarium tall. Give them plenty of room they are pretty active little guys. You can go on your basic arboreal vivarium. I have a trio in like a tank that is lie 12x6x 25. A little smaller then I would like but they have alot of height which they fully enjoy.
If you have any other questions just email me I would be glad to help. I actually recently almost lost one to disease but caught it quick enough that I was able to treat him and he is doing better now.

Good luck
Christina
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0.0.1 Hatchling Indian Star Tortoise (Sitara)
1.1 Russian Tortoise (Willy & Mikey)
0.1 Ornate Box Turtle (Lily)
1.0 Red Eared Slider (Chester)
0.0.2 White's Tree Frog (Kermit & Phil)
0.0.1 Red eyed Tree Frog (Justin)
0.0.1 Big Eyed Tree Frog
0.0.2 Bubbling Frog
0.0.2 Tiger Leg Tree Frogs (Akari & Shiro)
0.0.3 Amazonian Milky Tree Frogs
0.0.1 Dwarf Megophrys
0.0.2 Rainbow Burrowing Frog/Ornate Hopper
0.0.1 Asian Blue Webbed Gliding Tree Frogs
0.0.1 Albino Pacman Frog
0.0.1 Budgett's Frog
0.0.2 Starry Night Reed Frogs
0.1 Praire Dog (Timmy)
0.2 Chinchillas (Layla & Snickers)
0.3 mice
0.1 dog (Holly)
2.0 Cats (Champ & Bear)

Oh and a husband

I've heard they are not that easy to breed, and the tadpoles are hard to take care of. Just wondering if you had tried breed them, and if you were successfull?
And also, how do you sex Budgetsfrogs?
Just asking out of curiosity.
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CokeOfMan

I have not bred them yet... I started off with four, they got huge, I aestivated them, put the together and nothing. I had no clue if I had males or females. I couldnt find any info on how to sex budgetts, I called all the reptile specialty stores around my area and nobody had a clue. I got three more about a year later and around a month ago I noticed something different on my younger budgetts. Two of them had black toe pads on their inside fingers (just like male pacman frogs) . So that is one way to sex budgetts. I have not tried to breed them since knowing the sex of the budgetts, but will try to breed them again after I aestivate them. As for breeding budgetts, the info that I have read states that budgetts are very prolific breeders. Raising the tadpoles is a different thing thoug. The tadpoles can be hard to raise due to the fact they turn into froglets in about two weeks. They also have tremendous appetites which results in them eating their siblings. I have my fingers crossed that I get babies later this year.
As for keeping budgetts, they are one of the easiest frogs in the hobby to keep. They can also give you one of the nasiest bites of amphibian!!!

Joel

I keep my budgetts in shallow water. Enough water to let them completely submerge themselves in the water and enough for them to get some air without having to swim up. I have read in many pacman books that budgetts are very good swimmers though. I have put them in singly in 15g and 10g aquariums and they don't swim, unless you scare them. They won't even swim to get food, they will just lay still and ambush it when it swims in front of them. Let me know if you need any other info. I would also like to here other experiences and set ups that people have had with their budgetts.

Joel

Np
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CokeOfMan