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Construction completed on Ryu's new home

mwilso1 Jul 20, 2004 10:34 PM

Ryu's (U. Geryi) new 4x2x2 enclosure is completed and the pictures of the construction are at the URL below.

Some observations on the enclosure after having Ryu in it for a week or so.

I provided a large tub of diggable substrate (topsoil/sand/vermiculite mixture) as well as lots of vertical climbable surfaces. He does not seem that interested in the soil mix other than to lick at it slightly, no burrowing as of yet. On the other hand all of the vertical climbing surfaces and nooks in the rocks are being used all of the time. This makes sense to me as most of the literature on the saharan uros seems to point toward them being climbers and live in the crevices of rocks.

Since moving him out of his temporary 20 gal tank he has been climbing like mad on all of the surfaces and using his tail in a prehensile manner to hang from branches and the rock ledges. I plan on leaving the dirt substrate in for a month or two to see if any changes occur but at this point he is much more interested in climbing than digging.

The only other note is that for the first few days he did not seem as active as before. I chalked that up to stress from moving enclosures. But after a couple more days I decided to add more light and see what that would do. Adding 2 more 4 foot flourescent tubes with an electronic ballast seemed to do the trick. He is now a bright brilliant orange and his activity and feeding is much better. I have to say that not only is temperature a major factor in his behaviour and health but also the amount of light. It almost seems like overkill the amount of light I have on him (4 4 foot flourescent tubes, 1 90W halogen ,and 1 160W MVB) but the results are spectacular.

Of course his enclosure now glows like the surface of the sun but as long as he is happy.

Replies (8)

mwilso1 Jul 20, 2004 10:38 PM

>>Ryu's (U. Geryi) new 4x2x2 enclosure is completed and the pictures of the construction are at the URL below.

Of course I forgot to include the URL in the first post.

Enclosure construction
Enclosure construction

el_toro Jul 21, 2004 01:43 PM

Ryu is one LUCKY LIZARD!!! Even the temp cage is stellar! Good job!
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Torey
Salem, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx Geyri (Joe and Arthur)
1.1 Uromastyx Maliensis (Tank and Turtle)
1.1 Anolis Carolinensis (Bowser and Leeloo)
1.1 African Dwarf Frogs (Bruce and Sheila)
1.0 Betta Splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.0 Sunset Dwarf Gourami (Sideshow)
0.0.1 False Spotted Corydoras (Spot)
0.0.2 Metae Corydoras (Frank and Jesse)
0.0.2 Dwarf Sucking Oto (Tootsie and Dum-Dum)
0.0.1 Apple Snail
1.1 Felis Domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

mwilso1 Jul 21, 2004 03:41 PM

>>Ryu is one LUCKY LIZARD!!! Even the temp cage is stellar! Good job!
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>>Torey

Thanks. Actually My Mom and Sister came over to my house the other day to visit and they nicknamed him Lucky after seeing his setup and all of the stuff I had bought for him. The only problem is I have so many hiding spots sometimes it is hard to spot him. As soon as I come near he ducks under some of the cork bark or rocks.

Of course that is not really a problem and should keep his stress level down. He is still a juvenile (less than 1 year) so as he gets older he should mellow out a bit.

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Mike Wilson
mwilson@fuu.net

-ryan- Jul 21, 2004 04:18 PM

I love that enclosure! I'm going to have to use that as a model for the enclosures I plan on building for my lizards (I hope i can get to that this summer). Being able to hide quickly will keep the stress level down for the little lizard. Is he already tame or no? I like the whole setup though. Is that a digging box on the left hand side?

an all around nice job.

mwilso1 Jul 21, 2004 04:46 PM

>>I love that enclosure! I'm going to have to use that as a model for the enclosures I plan on building for my lizards (I hope i can get to that this summer). Being able to hide quickly will keep the stress level down for the little lizard. Is he already tame or no? I like the whole setup though. Is that a digging box on the left hand side?
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>>an all around nice job.

Yep that is a box with a cubic foot or so of soil mix (topsoil/vermiculite/sand). It is well compacted and holds tunnels well (I dug a couple of starter burrows) but he is not interested yet. If he does start to burrow I will put in a more complete system with more room for digging.

As for being tame he is captive born but still pretty flighty. He won't take any food by hand but I don't have any problems capturing him to give him a soak. He will inflate himself and do a little s-dance to let me know he is not pleased but he does not freak out.

Of course I am still calling him a he, but it is a little to early to tell. Every day I am leaning more towards female as there is still no sign of any color or stripes on the belly. He (She... it ) is coming up on a year old so I would expect to see some coloring sometime in the next year if it is a male.

Ryu baby picture munching dandelions:
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Mike Wilson
mwilson@fuu.net

-ryan- Jul 21, 2004 11:29 PM

how do your basking platforms hold up to heat so far? I'm thinking of using that same idea with the cages I want to build, but I think the actual cage structure might be a little different because I'm going to want to stack at least two up, so I need to make mine a little beefier. Then again, how sturdy is that cage?

mwilso1 Jul 22, 2004 11:21 AM

>>how do your basking platforms hold up to heat so far? I'm thinking of using that same idea with the cages I want to build, but I think the actual cage structure might be a little different because I'm going to want to stack at least two up, so I need to make mine a little beefier. Then again, how sturdy is that cage?

The basking platforms made out of foam and grout seem to hold up extremely well to the heat. The week prior to putting the lizard in there I put 4 100 watt halogen lamps in there to help cook off any fumes that were left over from the construction adhesive and grout sealer. Surface tempatures reached over 160 degrees (read with an infrared temp gun) and everything survived fine.

When I was building it it took a heat gun at over 300 degrees to start to melt the foam insulation and that was before a thick layer of grout went on. So I have no worries about any amount of heat that a uro may want in there.

The overall sturdiness I think is pretty good. I was a bit worried about the 1/4 inch hardboard I used for the sides and the back but with an inch of foam and grout over the top they are very rigid and I can't flex them with any reasonable amount of pressure. I did put a couple of reinforcing 1x2 supports on the larger back 4 foot by 2 foot panel. I would never use hardboard that thin by itself though, it flexes quite a bit and breaks with only a bit of pressure, but it makes a great backing for the fake rock and is very light.

The frame of the structure is also very light, made up of 2x2 poplar for the corner posts 1x2 poplar for the frame. This works with the very light side panels well. I can pick up the entire structure by myself and with some of those little plastic feet on it I can slide it easily on the carpet by myself.

If you wanted something stronger and were not concerned about the weight I would change the floor from 1/2 plywood to 3/4 and beef up the frame... maybe using 3x3 posts and 2x2 and 2x4 framing material. The side panels don't really add to the strength of the frame in this design they just make it more rigid and help hold it square. If I was doing this again I might try using the FRP (fireberglass reinforced panels) that Chris Harper suggests. That way there would be no doubt about the thin hardboard for the sides cracking or flexing. Probably overkill but I don't have any problems with overkill

Picture of corner detail with 1/2 plywood floor 2x2 corner post and 1x2 poplar frame:

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Mike Wilson
mwilson@fuu.net

el_toro Jul 21, 2004 01:45 PM

As a side note on the digging, I have noticed (and confirmed this observation with others) that the Geyris don't seem to dig nearly as much as other species. I had my Geyris for a while, then later got the Malis. It surprised me how much more the Malis dig - they're regular excavators!
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Torey
Salem, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx Geyri (Joe and Arthur)
1.1 Uromastyx Maliensis (Tank and Turtle)
1.1 Anolis Carolinensis (Bowser and Leeloo)
1.1 African Dwarf Frogs (Bruce and Sheila)
1.0 Betta Splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.0 Sunset Dwarf Gourami (Sideshow)
0.0.1 False Spotted Corydoras (Spot)
0.0.2 Metae Corydoras (Frank and Jesse)
0.0.2 Dwarf Sucking Oto (Tootsie and Dum-Dum)
0.0.1 Apple Snail
1.1 Felis Domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

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