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Ghost vs Anerythristic?

qime Jul 22, 2004 03:19 PM

I know that a ghost is a hypo anery, but is there any way to tell definitively if my anery is hypo or not. I think my charcoal might be a ghost - the older he gets the lighter he gets. Thanks

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carl3 Jul 22, 2004 06:09 PM

"I know that a ghost is a hypo anery, but is there any way to tell definitively if my anery is hypo or not. I think my charcoal might be a ghost - the older he gets the lighter he gets. Thanks"

Do you have a pic? Not that pictures are the best for determining corn morphs. In fact, if you scroll down a bit you'll see my request for ghosts vs. pastels motleys since I've seen some lately that are very hard to distinguish. Ghosts vs. Anerys vs. Charcoals vs. Charcoal ghosts all seem to be quite variable depending on the bloodline. Since all are a shade of black to one degree or another, its very hard to tell without knowing the genetic background for certain. A few years ago, the charcoal gene wasn't as common but now I bet we'll see more requests for pics and more requests for help identifying them since they're wholesaled more often now and are more readily available through sources that do not offer history or background on a corns genetic makeup. The only way you may know for sure is by contacting the breeder or by attempting breeding trials (which takes longer and I don't agree with it unless its a new form of a gene being tested). For me personally, I don't think that breeding a corn to find out whats in its genetic background is the best reason for breeding them. But what do I know.lol. Heck, who knows...sooner or later a 3rd form of anery may pop up?!?!?!? (if it hasn't already)....how many 'known' forms of hypo are there now? FOUR..the last I checked it out.lol. Oh well....Post a pic if ya got one, I'd love to see it regardless of what it is.
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Sincerely,
Jason

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Hawk Jul 22, 2004 08:16 PM

I know I stopped reading this forum for a little while, but there are four hypos now?!?!
Wow, last I knew, there were only two, and the second one only fairly recently discovered (By the Loves I believe, "Sunkissed" was it?). Guess staying off the forum really keeps you out of the loop.
Anyone know where I can find descriptions/pics of these morphs?
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"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."
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carl3 Jul 22, 2004 09:10 PM

1) original Hypo
2) sunkissed hypo
3) ultra Hypo
4) Lava Hypo

As far as I know those are the only four which have been tested through breeding trials for compatability with one another. I could be wrong since I don't have access to the exact data (only what people post on various forums). Anyway, I bet you could find pics by doing a search on the other cornsnake website. Some of the big breeders report finding other incompatible forms of the hypo gene BUT its hard to distinguish the phenotypes if its not extraordinarily different. The above 4 are noticeably different if you saw them.
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Sincerely,
Jason

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0.2 Green Tree Pythons
2.2 Bismark Ringed Pythons
2.3 Ball Pythons
1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
1.1 Argentine Boas
0.1 Solomon Island Ground Boa
1.2 Hogg Island Boas
1.1 Sonoran Desert Boas
2.2 Nicaraguan Boas
10.13 Cornsnake morphs
1.1 Northern Pine Snakes
2.2 Bairds Rat Snakes
1.2 White-Sided Black Rat Snakes
My Website & Pics (click here)

qime Jul 22, 2004 10:15 PM

Here are pics of my two boys. I just brought the amel motley home last weekend. The charcoal (??) is about 5 months old now.

ronda Jul 23, 2004 09:12 PM

Like Jason said, it is really hard to distinguish between the two morphs by their phenotype alone. Here is a snake that I bought as an anery, but he kept getting lighter and lighter until I was convinced he was a ghost. Breeding trials proved me wrong.

And another... This female is lighter than many ghosts I've seen, but is in fact an anery.

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Ronda Van Winkle
Northwest Herpetoculture

qime Jul 24, 2004 10:51 AM

Hi - I should have re-titled my reply above. I encluded pics of both of my snakes for reference (well one was just for fun). Here they are again. My charcoal (Maxwell) looks a lot, color wise, like the second pic you posted, and he just keeps getting lighter. Thanks for the info. I was hoping there would be some trick - like faded belly checks or something, but figured it was probably just a metter of degrees. Thanks for your help!

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