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why is it hard to find specled king

tim8ball Jul 26, 2004 03:10 AM

i have a female and im looking for a male. will they bread with any other kings? if so what is best? if i find one whats the going price somewhat?

Replies (15)

althea Jul 26, 2004 07:41 AM

One reason you may have problems locating one is that in some states you cannot collect/buy/sell them legally, such as Tennessee. You might consider posting a WANTED ad in the classifieds. It's logical that someone is working with them where it is legal. Just know your state's herp laws before having it shipped to you. Enough said. . .best of luck locating a mate for your speckled king!

crimsonking Jul 26, 2004 11:45 AM

Funny, I see 'em all the time on the classifieds, and auctions. WC adults are usually around $60. or so. Should be babies anytime. Just keep your eyes open.
:Mark

Peter_Jolles Jul 26, 2004 12:44 PM

I have 1.1 - bought in 2003 from two different breeders. They are more rare at shows (here in the mid atlantic) but I think that you can find one at a snake show if you look hard AND you live in an area that allows their captivity.

To be honest - I do not really like mine - they are very jumpy and quick to musk. However, I only have two so it is not a very "educated" remark.

Thomas Davis has some very pretty ones. Probably the prettiest I have seen - they are yellow and black with solid yellow bellies. You should email him. He will "play ball", as they say: meaning he will sell or trade off his excess hatchlings.

Good Luck,
Peter Jolles

Passport Jul 26, 2004 01:56 PM

I have a yearling female and have to agree that she is kind of jumpy and will musk and likes to smear her tail on me when she does. However, she is not a biter and calms down in just a few seconds of handling. I purchased her for $10 at a nearby reptile show when she looked like a little worm. I plan to keep her in my collection because the Speckled Kings are seen here in Louisiana by many folks and they think they are mean. I like to be able to show these folks what one looks like "up close and personal" so to speak without a hoe or shovel on the ready. I consider her a tool to educate the fearful but I am hoping she stops the musking soon. Her name is Barbi and she is quite beautiful.

Kerby... Jul 26, 2004 09:31 PM

Speckled Kings aren't illegal to harvest in Kansas. I don't know about the laws on selling them in Kansas (shows etc...). But with a Hunting License you can collect them.

Kerby...

Peter_Jolles Jul 26, 2004 10:11 PM

... but was told that. I have not checked the Kansas laws.

So you can collect them in Kansas with a hunting license?

interesting

Kerby... Jul 27, 2004 12:21 AM

KS F&G sent us the copy of the regs, says you can collect 5 of each species except the protected species, etc...
We told them we were going herping.

Kerby...
2004 Field Reports (Including Kansas)

Peter_Jolles Jul 27, 2004 05:57 PM

...take it easy old timer!

Peter Jolles

Kerby... Jul 27, 2004 09:05 PM

Try flipping for 6 hours a day, for 5 days. Yea, it wore me out but saw over 1,000 snakes.

I loved it so much that we are back again next spring.

I did live in Kansas from 1974-1986, so I'm no stranger in the Land of Ahhhsss...

Kerby...

Peter_Jolles Jul 27, 2004 09:27 PM

1,000 snakes? Holy Crap. That's awesome.

Yeah, I would have been dead tired also.

ultramute Jul 28, 2004 07:14 PM

Here are some pics of my WC speckled from southwest Kansas. I've had him for just over two years, he was the size of the Albino when I got him. Got him for $25. He has always ate great and he has never biten or musked me. The Albino I bought two weeks ago from a lps. It has bit at me a half dozen times, but eats very well also. All in all i am very happy with my speckleds and would like to get more of them.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4286084531

thomas davis Jul 26, 2004 07:40 PM

its kinda sad but l.g.holbrooki,nigra,splendida have allways been somewhat overlooked in the hobby and are just now starting to see a market or even recognized in the market,probably because that all3ssp tend to musk,wriggle,and top out at around 4ft but they all are great GETULA that is. and specks do naturally intergrade w/ both splendida and nigra where their ranges overlap, as far as price goes id say all 3ssp average about the same anywhere from 25to50 each depending on color,locale,size etc,,,,i love'um all
thomas

Peter_Jolles Jul 26, 2004 10:12 PM

n/p

RichH Jul 27, 2004 07:50 AM

as well as being a long time since I have seen one with such contrast.

Rich Hebron

Shadowleaner Jul 27, 2004 05:51 PM

Just spend time in Mississippi! The are arguably one the most commonly seen snakes in that state, especially from central Mississippi towards the Delta, where they can be quite large (4-5') and have much, much more yellow than is found in other areas of the state. Terry Vandeventer can go out on the right day in a number of areas in the state and find 10 without a problem...and that's not an exaggeration. And the more you look, the more you'll find - in fact, you'll grow tired of seeing them if you look enough.

On the Museum grounds at the M. of Natural Science in Jackson, people see them daily during the year, and this is right in the middle of a 200,000 peerson-sized city; I know it's a 300 acre woodland park, but it's also been disturbed. I saw - and the guy next to me caught it - a hatchling cruising across the sidewilk during an art exhibit opening with 100 people milling about...they are far, far from being uncommon in Mississippi at least.

I saw at least 20 DOR without even looking in the 15 months I was there; and people were forever bringing them to the Museum to find them a home. Find some tin in the spring somewhere in central Mississippi in particular and 10 to 1 if you look enough, you'll easily find more than one speckled in a day...much less in a year.

-John

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