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Please help...leaf cham laid eggs and not doing well

trinacliff Jun 22, 2003 04:53 PM

I just got this girl on Tuesday, and she has not looked well since she arrived...first, I thought she was a male since she is so much smaller than the others...I thought he/she was not going to make it, but then on Friday *she* dug a hole and laid eggs. Since then, all she has done is sit on a branch completely still...eyes closed and I can't get her to eat or drink. Her eyes are pretty sunken in...what do I do? I hate to just sit and watch her waste away.

Please give me some advice...the other two are doing great! They are both eating and drinking.
Thanks!
Kristen

Replies (5)

Demon_Hunter Jun 22, 2003 10:38 PM

Hi there,

I also have a rh. Brevi, and I am also hating the fact that she is doing horribly. However, mine has not dug any eggs (that i know of). I wonder why? Perhaps a lack of a nutrient that is found in the wild? Too much or too little uvb or uva? Exshaustion after laying? Perhaps the females lay only one clutch of eggs before dying...I have noticed that these problems have only happened to females that are either gravid or have recently layed eggs. Bill Strand or any other experienced breeder would be welcome to answer our questions...

Anthony

trinacliff Jun 22, 2003 11:53 PM

but the other two are doing great (knocking on wood). The other female that arrived with the sick (for lack of a better word) one had laid eggs in transit. There were 3 eggs at the bottom of the bag they were shipped in, and I'm pretty sure it was her that laid them. Then again, who really knows.

At any rate, I have not even had them a week, so I doubt it's an environmental problem since I don't believe it would effect them so quickly. I'm wondering if it's stress related...this poor girl has had the stress piled on recently. I just wish she would eat or drink. Friday, the day she laid the eggs, she didn't move until she climbed down and started digging her hole...she then laid the eggs, covered them and climbed back up onto a branch. She's been there (or in that area) since.

I would love some input on if there is anything that can be done for her. How long has yours been like this? How long have you had her? I'd be interested in hearing her entire story to see if we can find a common denominator.

Thanks
Kristen

Demon_Hunter Jun 23, 2003 12:34 AM

Hi Trinacliff,

I have the impression that i got 2 females. One is alredy dead and the other, i believe, is suffering the same doomed end. I got her about 4 months ago, had the two of them in a 20 gallon. As i was spraying them, some droplets got in her face, she started doing these creepy-ass movements, hissing, turning different colors, and finally dying. I have currently no friggin' idea as to why she died so quicly and violently. She didnt eat anything the day before, and perhaps this was her final event. The pair of females was with a male for i dont know how long at the petshop, but with me it was nothing more than 5 days. I gave the male away, and since then have no idea of his whereabouts. This led me to believe that the female i had was gravid. She was round, like she had swalowed a marble, and continuosly stood still and took naps. She did this longer and longer...until she fell asleep for hours at a time. Her substrate was largely untouched... Every single time i changed her substrate i looked at every single thing that looked round or was showing some white to find eggs. But nothing... One of these days i expect to fing her on the soil, crickets hapilly munching away at her body...Belive me, the amount of energ i have put in this tiny little animal! It is almost unrentless!
I am almost addicted in trying to keep this animal alive... I have brainstormed some ideas as to why females, especially with eggs, are doing so bad... Please if anyone has something, or could prove me wrong please add..

1. The calium powder is poisoning them. Wrong levels of calcium and trace elemnts are affecting the eggs in them, causing them to reamin eggbound, or for eggs to develop poorly, causing the female unability to lay properly.

2. Wrong levels of uva and uvb. I have no idea what happens when too much uv is absorbed, but i bet it isnt good.

3. wrong diet. perhaps an insect, or maybe even wrong Ph in the water is causing problems.

These are all the ones i can come up with. If anyone has anything they could add, it would be greatly appreciated.

Anthony

stnman Jun 23, 2003 12:48 AM

http://www.chamresearch.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=2

possible help from vet here. more info on rest of site.hope this can help.

stnman -- HD tech

trinacliff Jun 23, 2003 10:29 AM

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