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Leo subspecies?

angus_8 Jul 27, 2004 03:18 PM

Hi all, havent been on in a while but I have a bit of an interesting question, or atleast it seem interesting to me.
Well, it about the different subspecies of leos. I saw a post a while back that was talking about the different subspecies of eublepharis macularius:
-eublepharis m. montanus
-eublepharis m. afghanicus
-eublepharis m. fasciolatus
Now, when I look at my two leos, side be side, they look completely different. Not just the pattern or design, but the figure. My male is much leaner, with a long neck and really different shape to his body. He is also very high strung, and fast as hell.
I also read that when leos were brought in from the different countries they originate from, people bred the different subspecies together and what people mostly have now is a mixture of the different subspecies. So my question pretty much is, is it possible that I have two different subspecies (kinda) of leoS?
I've always pondered this after reading that post a couple months ago and looking at this site: http://bornova.ege.edu.tr/~bgocmen/emacularius.html
Also, forgive me if im using terms incorrectly or something or just plain sound like an idiot, I'm only 14 and nowhere near knowing everything most of you probably know.

Replies (1)

CoolGecko Jul 27, 2004 05:34 PM

There is more Subspeices than you did listed.

Eublepharis angramainyu (Anderson & Leviton 1966)

Eublepharis fuscus (Borner, 1981)

Eublepharis hardwicki (Gray, Zool. Journ. iii. p.223)

Eublepharis macularius

Eublepharis m. afghanicus (Borner, 1976)

Eublepharis m. fasciolatus (Gunther, 1864)

Eublepharis m. macularius (Blyth, 1855)

Eublepharis m. montanus (Borner, 1976)

Eublepharis m. smithi (Borner, 1981)

Eublepharis turcmenicus (Darevsky, 1977)

It is hard to tell which is from becuase most are hybird and been interbreed for many years... Color can be involes, size, shapes, scales numbers and pattern of scales... Really no way can tell unless they are orginal wild caught or import from eastmiddle, which is illegal now to import almost anything from there.

It is possbile that you has two subspeices but likely to be hybired with other subspeices. We did not study the subspeices very well at benning... Most of morphs are effect by subspeices and only few are Trully ressivce genes without subspeices... It is like we has some half black/white or EastmMiddlian/white... Just an thoughts..

I am 14 year old too and the age really does not matter, what matters is knowlege and responiltily. Even I am deaf

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