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Please enlighten me!!!!!

maynard Jul 28, 2004 07:43 AM

I am not trying to start trouble, but a gentleman has a a post in the python classifieds for "ebony and ivory". He is claiming to have a hypo granite female. It looks normal to me. I do not know too much about Ball Python morphs. I am a Burmese/Ceylonese
man. I just need some enlightenment. Please help me out. I am confused with that post. Because now I think I have 4 hypo granites.

Replies (25)

bachman Jul 28, 2004 08:00 AM

How do you have a Ceylonese python when there is no such place as Ceylon? It's now called Sri Lanka (for many many years).
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

SPJ01 Jul 28, 2004 08:52 AM

They are still called Ceylonese pythons by most people. Look at Bob Clarks price list on his site. It says Ceylonese pythons.

In regards to the granites, you would need to post a pic for people to see them for a better opinion. I have some that look granite but they are not the genetic ones. BP's looks can be deceiving sometimes.

bachman Jul 28, 2004 09:55 AM

I know alot of people still call them Ceylonese pythons, but I can't figure out why. About 10 years ago we started calling our Ceylonese cobras (Naja naja), Sri Lankan cobras. I guess you have to stick with an incorrect name so stupid people can figure it out...LOL.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

PristinePythons Jul 28, 2004 11:14 AM

Just as green tree pythons are still called Chondro's by die hard chondro people. I'm not planning on calling them morelia anytime soon.

John Light
Pristine Pythons

Irian Jaya carpet pythons have been renamed...no one is calling them anything different.

bachman Jul 28, 2004 11:22 AM

I still call them Chondro's. Just seemed funny to me that they still use Ceylonese, cuz there is no Island called Ceylon anymore. People still use "Formosa", and that to has been changed a long time ago to Taiwan. I just wasn't sure people knew about these (old) changes.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

jyohe Jul 28, 2004 07:46 PM

I still say chondro...probably always will....and Morelia means nothing anyways actually.......so.....

I will call corns and all Elaphe too....hey..I can't even remember what they changed them to.....

and yes...I still thought they were Ceylonese pythons.......
...............???...are they still mean?......

........

funny though......

(Chad...you bored again..you sound like me......LOL)......

guess who came and got 4 corns yesterday?........

........hmmmmmmmmm..........

JY
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people are stupid....are you a people?.....
thought so.......
having fun yet?......

bachman Jul 28, 2004 09:07 PM

Yeah bored. Still Ceylon (the nonexistant iland) to everybody I guess. Doesn't much matter, just thought I'd start some fun..LOL.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

bachman Jul 28, 2004 09:08 PM

.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

jyohe Jul 29, 2004 03:52 PM

Formosan Islands........

and dwarf midgets.........

>/?
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people are stupid....are you a people?.....
thought so.......
having fun yet?......

bachman Jul 29, 2004 07:19 PM

.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

jeff favelle Jul 28, 2004 11:22 AM

Seeing as Burma is longer in existence.

bachman Jul 28, 2004 11:28 AM

Myanamar python...LOL. I never knew why they called them Burmese, cuz they occur alot of other places than just Myanamar. Who knows? Maybe first ones collected from that area?
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

bachman Jul 28, 2004 11:36 AM

Thats why some professional herpetologists call them Indian/Asian Rock pythons.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

maynard Jul 28, 2004 02:06 PM

I like how you pretty much just called Bob Clark, myself, and anyone else who uses the original term "ceylonese" stupid. That was really cute.
My original question was about a certian morph a "hypo granite".
are they truly in existence? And if so does the pattern come close to say a granite burmese? Would a hypo granite female and a yellow belly male together be worth 30g's?

bachman Jul 28, 2004 02:12 PM

Yes I am cute aren't I?

If you look at the possibilities of what can be produced from granite X yellowbellies, then yes, they may be worth 30K a pair. granite Balls look nothing like granite Asian rock pythons "Burmese".
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

bachman Jul 28, 2004 02:16 PM

People in general ARE STUPID, I myself included, so don't get too upset about my opinions.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

Luke9815 Jul 28, 2004 07:44 PM

With these....the babies are from WC parents and the guy (if its the one I'm thinking of) thinks they are genetic just because the babies looked the same. They don't look like the mother from what pics I've seen and the mother doesn't look hypo....but he seems to think so....so if you want to risk 30k on something that isn't certain....go for it....I surely wont.....
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

herpconsultants2 Jul 28, 2004 07:49 PM

I think you'll find that "professional" herpetologists probably wouldn't refer to their (P.m."pimbura" vernacular name at all, when in certain circles. However, when talking on forums such as these, yes they probably would use "common names." [Just to make a note, this subspecies is no longer recognized by certain groups (such as CITES anyway)]

As someone that holds a PhD in herpetology, I think I am included in your group of "professionals." I often have a gripe with "common" names, and the way they lead the "amateur" to believe that a certain species / subspecies only occurs in a certain country / area. Take the "Brazilian" rainbow boa for example. Of course, it only occurs in Brazil.....uh-hum!

However....in this case....seriously, get off the guy's back. Ceylonese / Sri Lankan Python.......there really are better things to discuss! Pedantic isn't the word!.....

herpconsultants2 Jul 28, 2004 07:36 PM

I hate it when people are so pedantic on these forums! And what a beautiful example!

jyohe Jul 28, 2004 07:53 PM

you used the word pedantic in 2 posts......

........

? isn't that what Micheal Jackosn is?..a pedanticophile?.....

LOL

not.......

anyways.......

I gots me none of them thar Pee H and Dees.......

.......I just breed like a big dog.........

(have fun)......

thought I'd share.......
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people are stupid....are you a people?.....
thought so.......
having fun yet?......

herpconsultants2 Jul 28, 2004 08:45 PM

I guess so.....although....the other post was made (tongue-in-cheek) in reference to this post, so maybe not. Anyway, let's not split hairs about this, I hate being pedantic!

bachman Jul 28, 2004 09:16 PM

Why would a professional like yourself let a nobody like me get you all worked up over a meaningless post? I'm having fun, relax dude.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

herpconsultants2 Jul 29, 2004 04:47 AM

I hardly think I'm worked up! I just hate seeing posts like yours because I think it dissuadwes the "new guys" from returning, that's all.

Have a good one!

bachman Jul 29, 2004 09:39 AM

have to agree with you, (as much as I hate to LOL) but I was just trying to stir some fun without it getting too out of hand.

Sorry guys, I was bored. Next time I will keep it to myself.

Later
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

lilroach56 Jul 29, 2004 10:53 AM

both of those are just normal WC/CH/CB ball pythons, nothing special about them.
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