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snakes kept together while babies? ... breeding later

SNAKEMAN12345 Jul 28, 2004 03:58 PM

okay i was wondering, there is a reptile show coming up in daytona as im sure you all know, and im hoping to get a pair of baby 100% het albino boas to care for and breed later on. i was wondering if i should keep them together while they are growing up or if i should keep them septrate there whole life until its time to breed? let me know. thanks

Replies (11)

Mishkam Jul 28, 2004 04:30 PM

NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER house snakes together.

one wrong move and one snake could eat the other, and most of the time the "eater" will die from the oversized meal.

Always separate cages.

Hoppy Jul 28, 2004 06:03 PM

Sorry all you KY people out there, I was just kidding. Keeping a 1.1 of Hets together for the first two years should not effect the breeding of them the following season as long as they are serperated on the third year before breeding. it is not Ideal to house them together, but can be done. Feed them in seperate containers.
Good Luck
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Hypoboa1 Jul 28, 2004 07:14 PM

10,000 Comedians out of work an your tying to be funny!LOL!

Hoppy Jul 28, 2004 08:28 PM

asdf
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

SNAKEMAN12345 Jul 28, 2004 09:08 PM

DOES EVERYONE AGREE THAT YOU CAN KEEP THEM TOGETHER FOR 2 YEARS IF YOU SEPERATE THEM THE 3ED YEAR? (THE PREVIOUS POST)

Biophiliacs Jul 28, 2004 09:31 PM

Those boas that ate each other were being fed at the time.. and were unwatched...which is why one of them decided to eat the other. Hang in there...
Later-
Matt Schubarth
Pet Nebula
2100 Stephens #116
Missoula, Montana 59801
406 541 9929

RAZORREPTILES Jul 28, 2004 08:18 PM

I TAKE IT YOU STILL HAVENT DONE ANY READING ON BOAS HAVE YOU ? YOUR STILL ASKING QUESTIONS THAT IF YOU ACTUALLY HAD DONE ANY READING YOU WOULDNT NEED TO ASK!!!DID YOU EVEN READ THE POST 2 DAYS AGO WHERE THE ONE BOA ATE THE OTHER IT WAS LEFT WITH FOR JUST MINUTES? NO I GUESS YOU DIDNT GO DOWN AND READ THAT AND THEN ASK YOURSELF IF YOU SHOULD HOUSE BOAS TOGETHER
"NUFF SAID"
JOHN PERAZA

SNAKEMAN12345 Jul 28, 2004 09:05 PM

i have several books on the way here about boas... all of the ones that were suggested to me i ordered :-D ... while they were on there way i was just asking if you could house them together because i was making a cage and i was wondering if i should divide it but now i know to keep them septrate (divide the cage). but also i was wondering.... you said the snake ate the other one, whats going to keep them from eating each other when they are in the same cage when breeding time comes along instead of when they are little? thanks alot...

LindaH Jul 28, 2004 10:25 PM

It is best to house boas separately. That is always the best and safest......

That said.....I do keep some of my babies and some of my yearlings in little groups of 2 to 3 in large enclosures. I take them out and feed them in separate containers. After they eat, I rinse each animal with warm water for a few seconds...hopefully to wash away any rat smell on the snake. I have been doing this for a while now with no problems. Each of my little groups have been together for a long time. They all know that they have to come out to eat. They know the minute I put them in the "feeding containers" what is going on and that it's time to eat. It's amazing how a primitive reptilian brain can learn some things. I only have a small collection and this works for *me*. It would be a lot of work for someone with a lot of snakes to do it this way. Housing them this way, I realize I could have an "eating incident" someday.....however, I think they know that they do not eat in their enclosures, they are well-fed, and they are rinsed off after eating. They do not connect their enclosure with food at all. If anything, they associate the door, and me, with eating because when feeding day gets close, their little internal clocks will have them hawking me at the door and I get the STARE until I take them out and feed them....too cute!!

My larger boas (2 and older) are all kept separately in their own enclosures and they are fed in the enclosures as well. My only little groups are the babies and yearlings.

You are right in your questioning about safety when breeding. I watch mine and remove the male when he is taking a break. That is when I offer them food (separately). Sometimes they eat and sometimes they don't. Either way, I will put the male back in a couple of days....and they continue right back with their courting/breeding activities.

Enjoy your books, consider all aspects, and do what you feel most comfortable with.
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Linda Hedgpeth
lindafh@frontiernet.net
Sierra Serpents

"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away"

BLAZEBOAS Jul 29, 2004 10:40 AM

Snakeman you said you wanted to buy a pair of 100% hets in daytona right? and i assume that you are buying these guys to eventually breed(ya think?)correct? i also assume that you will buying them from different sourcses to insure that you are getting unrelated animals correct? if YOUR answers were yes then you cannot keep them together becuase you would have to quarentine them from ea other for a min of 90 days and if your breeding them i wouldnt breed related siblings also i dont think its a good idea to house them together or any snakes for that matter. yes you can always feed them separate but when you place them back together whats to stop them from stressing ea other out?
"nuff said"
John Peraza

tim5580 Jul 31, 2004 01:06 AM

How about when they are "teens" and they have raging hormones but aren't ready to be parents yet? Who will raise their babies?
Or maybe I'm confusing people and snakes again

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