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Looking for house flies...

chameleons4you Jul 29, 2004 12:26 AM

Can anyone give me a link to buy house flies?

Stephanie

Replies (9)

Elfunko Jul 29, 2004 01:32 AM

Grubco.com

Mine shipped yesterday I think and arrived today. They are large maggots (I think thats the term) that should cuccoon pretty soon. If some aren't fat enough I threw in a slice of baloney in with em.

I am also trying to cultivate waxworms (and mealworms to see if I can). Where I look they say to use bee pollen, glycerin, etc. but I don't have a clue where to get that. What they have now is some honey, hibiscus flowers, lettuce, and crushed wheat cereal. Anyone know were to buy the right ingedients?

lele Jul 29, 2004 10:49 AM

Here is what I have used successfully for waxworms:

you can get all of these in a natural food store or (progressive) supermarket that carries stuff in bulk. this way you buy only what you need and it is cheaper - if you live in CA you'll have no problem finding all of these ingredients

**bran and/or oatmeal (rolled oats) and/or rice dry baby cereal
**beeswax (buy it in the smallest chunks that you can
**glycerin (vegetable, not animal) either pharmacy or natural foodstore
**honey
**brewer's or nutritional yeast

You can either melt these all together in a double broiler, microwave or oven (just long enough to melt so you can mix it all together). let it cool and crumble it into pieces. Place in open container and put in waxworms. If you find dead ones (they smell and turn black) remove them immediatley and any mix they were lying in.

When I am not rearing them I keep a supply of this mix in the fridge - it keeps indefinitely.

NOTE PLEASE NEVER EVER let the adult moths of these loose. They infest honeybee hives and do very serious damage

here is a site with more info and additional links
waxworms

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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia (MIA
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

ChameleonWulf Jul 29, 2004 06:50 AM

Hi,

What I did was make my own butterfly net to catch bugs. I put out wet cat food on a dish and wait for flies to show up then catch them.... thinking of trapping some and basically use them to start a maggot farm.
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lele Jul 29, 2004 10:32 AM

oohh...be careful on doing this - especially flies! they eat sh*t - literally! They feast on decaying/rotting food and animals. All this fine dining leads to a belly loaded with all sorts of parasites, bacteria, etc. and the possibility of pesticude residue. This also goes for other wild caught insects - more so the pesticide issue than parasites, but you never know. If you are going to rear flies I would begin with a good source culture like that from Kammerflage, grubco or skipio's.

just my 2 cents
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia (MIA
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

chameleons4you Jul 29, 2004 03:46 PM

np

lele Jul 29, 2004 07:03 PM

>>np
Skipio's

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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia (MIA
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

ChameleonWulf Jul 30, 2004 04:55 AM

So it would be a bad idea starting a fly farm with wild caught flies?
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lele Jul 30, 2004 09:59 AM

yes, I would say so...you do not know what they have eaten (but you can make some guesses!) therefore what parasites, bacteria, etc. are contained in them. I wouldn't want to risk it. get a small culture and go from there. I know that the Kammers use a non-meat gutload for them.

lele
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia (MIA
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

ChameleonWulf Jul 30, 2004 01:08 PM

Thanks I'll do that... He seems to love flies or flying insects.
I've been catching alot of these lacewings lately and he eats those up. A question I have is: Is it normal for a jacksons to be really dark brown for a long time? Say like 2 weeks? I ask because the local petsmart has had this male jacksons and the whole time I've know they had it he's been dark brown but seemed really dark today. They also have a female one she seems kinda brown too but not as much as the male. First time I ever saw them sell a female btw. I mentioned it to the gal working there that the chameleon didn not seem too happy. Thinking of talking to the manager and suggesting he seperate them... or at least telling him thier 99$ chameleons seem to be stressing which would equal $200 in lost revenue if anything.... If I had the monet I'd buy them both.
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