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Another specie he is breeding

petereg Jun 23, 2003 08:43 AM

Brachylophus fasciatus, Fiji iguana male.
very beautiful iguanas of small size !

Replies (19)

jcbw1 Jun 23, 2003 10:09 AM

Wow, both are very nice animals. Does your friend work for a zoo, or endangered specie breeding facility. I know the Fiji iguanas are very rare and are in alot of trouble. Does your friend breed them?
Thanks
Mike Weaver

petereg Jun 23, 2003 02:53 PM

No, he doesnt work at a zoo, but he has a very nice iguana breeding facility. Yes he breeds the fiji iguanas, too. This year he hatched a few of them.
Link

Mark M Jun 23, 2003 03:37 PM

I don't understand your post.

Mark M Jun 23, 2003 03:39 PM

I assume your in Europe?

petereg Jun 24, 2003 01:19 AM

Yes, he is a breeder from europe. Nobody ever tries to import them to U.S. I dont think that there are some privats in U.S with fiji iguanas.

jf Jun 24, 2003 11:20 AM

I am pretty sure. otherwise we would all have one.

tgreb Jun 24, 2003 01:08 PM

This is America land of the free. LOL, LMAO etc.. The private sector can if they apply for and by the graciousness of our government are approved and they have a sourch for legal animals they can have them. I kind of got into this with Jeff Lemm awhile back. It is a crap shoot if you will be approved or not though. Some guy I know was selling legal Sauromalus varius. Some people that applied for permits to purchase animals from him were approved and some were not. Go figure- no rhime or reason for it. I think it depends on the person that checks your application and what kind of mood they are it the day they review it. I guess how you fill out out the paperwork and answer all their questions would make a difference also. Who knows. I think it should be like the new gun law for CCW here in MI. IF you meet all the criteria that have to approve you. My 2 cent rant. Sorry guys and girls! Tom

jf Jun 24, 2003 01:22 PM

they are protected and not available to us, much like most of the cyclura. So if I jump the right way through the proper hoops I could have one providing a legal source would sell me one. Too much trouble, I will go to the zoo and put nose prints on the glass.
thanks for clearing it up

tgreb Jun 24, 2003 01:34 PM

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Jeff Lemm Jun 24, 2003 05:21 PM

Okay, first, no single private herp guy in the US is now allowed to have most Cyclura (other than nubila and cornuta - some can have the caymanensis and hybrids and a couple lewisi here and there that have been produced in the US over the last decade or so, but USFWS probably isn't too happy about these). As for any Brachylophus - they ALL belong to Fiji. It is impossible to get them legally because no Brachys. have ever been let out into private hands from Fiji. Thats the basics, but there have been exceptions that are related to zoo work (extremely rare). If you want a Brachy, get a desert iguana. They're the same thing but Brachys live in trees.

tgreb Jun 24, 2003 08:40 PM

Is there a list of certain animals that are a no-no or is it all Cites appedix 1 endandered species? I wonder if the ones in Europe are for sale to the public? I imagine this is a US law only??? Tom

clee4560 Jun 24, 2003 10:23 PM

danny gorman of d&j reptiles have a farm in costa rica or some where and says he has bred them but not allowed to sell them. i think the crested ones are cooler but i guess i would take the banded if i had to. talk to ya chris. oh yeah twist is doing really good and getting stronger and now abel to walk on his right front foot with out any sign of is problem but i will keep his name. hope to have pics soon. tom do you know if your friend still has s.various could you e-mail me.

Jeff Lemm Jun 24, 2003 10:41 PM

USFWS would not like any Cyclura other than cornuta and nubila in the pet trade. This is mainly due to the status of most in the wild. As for those in Europe - you never can say. I would question the legal status of most animals in Europe's private trade that are from the Caribbean, Australia, and especially Fiji. Zoos would not sell Brachylophus anywhere because of the agreement they have with Fiji.

petereg Jun 25, 2003 04:21 AM

Not only fiji is the home of this specie. They are also common on other islands (Vanuatu and Tonga).
An local tropical-fish exporteur in Vanuatu exported fiji iguanas years ago to europe and Asia. All of them got legal export and import permits to europe, Asia and Indonesia ! Now the breeders in europe breeds them up to F6 Generation with alot of different bloodlines.
Fiji iguanas has been introduced to vanuatu more then 50 years ago, on efate they are very common now. The local people keep them as housepets. They look like fijis from fiji, there is no difference. Also the crested iguana was located on efate, too.
But only a small population of

petereg Jun 25, 2003 04:35 AM

But only a small population of

petereg Jun 25, 2003 04:36 AM

But only a small population of

petereg Jun 25, 2003 04:37 AM

But only a small population of 50 animals is known. But these cresteds are bigger then the iguanas on Fiji (Yaduataba, Devuilau, Monu, Monuriki, Treasure,..). He exported some , too.
I dont know why the researchers are only watching the populations on fiji and forget the population on the other islands.
I hope that the breeding for these species will go on , so that they will be also common to the private sector. Not only zoos have the experience and adequat facilities to keep and breed these beautiful and fascinating iguanas. Private herpetologist can also make a good job for breeding and keeping endangered species !
bye peter

kwe Jun 25, 2003 09:51 PM

I have read several times of them living on a few other islands. Are they still concidered Fiji property? I expect they are but I would think it would make a good argument, though they are still cites. Also, Terry Lilly had them for sale not too long ago. KB

eve Jun 25, 2003 06:04 AM

lizard, just awesome, Eve

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