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Reptile Education Seminars pictures )

McCarthyBoas Aug 02, 2004 08:44 PM

Here are some pictures from the Reptile Education Seminars I did with some friends "Hoosier Reptiles" on 7/27/2004 at the Three Oaks Library and the New Buffalo Library in Michigan. The kids loved the shows especially at the end of the shows as we let them hold some of the reptiles we had there. We even had a few people say that there feelings about reptiles have changed for the better now. There are more picture at the link below. We will be doing one more show at the Michigan City Zoo in Indiana on 8/14/2004 at 1:30 pm. Maybe some of you can make it for the show.

Here is a link for more pictures.
www.mccarthyboas.com/Snakepix15.html

Take care,
Tom
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Replies (6)

Hoppy Aug 02, 2004 09:38 PM

That is great. I did it last year with our Sheriff's Office summer club called "Cool Club".
I was there with some of my snakes and another one of our Deputies works with the Shy Wolf Sanctuary and brought to Wolfs in too. The kids loved it and it was good to see them so interested in the animals.
It is nice to see Herpers doing some good, I hope your local newspaper did a nice blurb on it, so they can see that we do give it back to the community too.
Nice Job and keep up the good work, that kind of work goes a long way to help prevent bans like what is being proposed in NY right now, Those kids will grow up with that memory and may be in a position to prevent such legislation one day.
One more thing, oddly enough my neighborhood is also called Three Oaks, but I am in Sunny FL
Thanks again
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Mickey_TLK Aug 02, 2004 11:52 PM

But sadly this post brings to mind a phone call I recieved at the shop today.

A lady told me a the Sarpy County fair this last week they had a game that if you won you got a "little green lizard in a brown bag".

She then tells me a few days later she was informed the lizard was an iquana and would get quite large. She was quite happy she hadnt gotten one, but mentioned seeing kids walking around with two or three.

What makes this all the sadder is that Douglas County (the next county, with a far larger population) has a law against iggies. I would guess that 90% of the attendees were from Douglas County. All of theese animals are likely doomed to a life of neglect untill they are put down by the humaine society when turned in, quite sad.
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Mickey Hinkle
The Lizard King Reptiles
http://thelizardkingreptiles.com
402-614-6641

"I am the Lizard King, I can do anything" - Jim Morrison

carl3 Aug 03, 2004 07:01 AM

For events like this, how many people TOTAL do you have working with you? The reason I ask is b/c I'm curious what precautions you take to ensure no problems? I have been asked to do this recently by a boyscout troop leader but have been reluctanct simply b/c I am a little afraid (liability, etc). However, I realize from past experiences with bringing my reptiles into classrooms, that the reward is priceless. Can you offer any advice for others based on your past successful experiences (and maybe some mistakes you've learned along the way). How many reptiles do you take out at one time? for how long? etc etc. lol. sorry...but thought this was a GREAT post that myself and others could definitely learn from.
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Sincerely,
Jason

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blackpine Aug 03, 2004 09:53 AM

Here’s my 2 cents on the subject. I’ve given snake presentations at libraries for years. I do a slide show and show a few live animals. The whole thing takes 45-60 minutes. My audience is usually 6-12 year olds. Most of the time I work alone. I only have an assistant if I borrow a friend’s large constrictor. I’ve had large audiences (over 200) but find that presentations to 60 people or less are more interesting and enjoyable for both the audience and me.

The key is for you to be in firm control of the situation. I give the kids my ground rules before I start… everyone stays sitting on their bums, no fast movements, no silly fear displays (kids act up in front of their friends but if you tell them to cut the goofiness, they do!). I show the snakes one at a time and I walk the animal through the crowd, talking about it as I go. It doesn’t take long per animal, everybody gets a close look without the snake being mobbed, and, if anyone acts up or stands up to get a closer look, I immediately walk away from them and tell them why I’m doing so (they always behave after that). Often, parents are in the audience and the rules apply to them too (although they, of course, are usually sitting in chairs rather than on the floor with the kids). When I first started doing these talks, I had kids gathering around me and I realized that there was too much potential for an accident. The walkabout works much better and I remain behind after a presentation for those who want to chat more about the snakes.

I also tell the audience whether or not they can touch each animal (e.g. my BP has done this for years and doesn’t care who touches him but my black pine has only done half a dozen shows so far, so I don’t want to stress her more than necessary). I remind the children that a snake is not a dog or cat. It can be docile but it’s not domesticated. I ask them to touch the body but not the head, as even my most placid snake can be a little head shy at times.

As I walk around with the snake, I watch the kids far more closely than my snake. I know each snake’s personality and what it’s likely to do. If something bad were to happen (and thank goodness, it never has), there’s a far greater chance that it would be due to an audience member rather than one of my snakes.

The first snake I always pull out is my daughter’s large plush toy rattlesnake. I tell the audience that I’ve got a large snake in the bag, I stick my hand in and shake the rattle (always getting a comment like “Oh, there’s a rattlesnake in there!), and then I quickly whip it out. It’s always good for a laugh, breaking the tension that sometimes exists, and it gives me a gauge of how my audience is likely to react to the real animal. After I whip out the toy, we discuss why I would not have a rattlesnake or any other potentially dangerous snake with me during my presentation.

I guess I’ve rambled on enough. As you can tell, I really enjoy doing these presentations and it’s great PR for the snake world. I hope this helps you and I encourage you to give it a try. As you noted from your classroom visits, it’s very rewarding.

carl3 Aug 03, 2004 01:49 PM

That's really informative and precisely what I was looking for. I really appreciate the time you spent typing that...I will cut and paste to save and refer to at a later time when I'm doing my next reptile demo. I am a high school biology teacher and alot of my animals are used in education but I always wonder 'what if' and for that reason, I have been growing more and more weary about using them given all the bad publicity anymore. I try to think of ALL possible risks involved and good planning seems to be key, but its never 100% certain. Also, I could not agree more...most of my animals, for the most part, are predictable. When I have been bitten in the past, its usually my own fault, and not the snake's. It makes sense to watch for the reactions and actions of an audience. Well thanks again!
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Sincerely,
Jason

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McCarthyBoas Aug 03, 2004 11:09 AM

Hi Jason,

We have anywhere from 3 to 4 people working with the reptiles. Most of the time there is only one person (Tara) who speaks with the children. Tara is much better than I at talking to the kids. She set it up like school for the kids, and she asks the kids questions to see how many answers she can get. Then if no one gets the right answer, she will tell them. One of the questions I like that Tara asks is ( What is the animal that causes the most accidents and deaths in the USA?) Usually, no one gets that one right. Most people are surprised to find out that the horse is number 1 and that the dog is number 2. Then we tell them snakes are way down on the bottom of the list. We also talk about reptiles that are native to the area we are in. The best advice I can give you , is to make sure you keep it fun for the kids, and very informitive.

We talk about what reptiles make good and bad pets. Gates is one of the ones we tell them that makes a bad pet.

We will have anywhere from 3 to 5 reptiles out at any one time. Most of the reptiles are in the clear display cases I make. Some snakes are only out a short time while we are talking about them.

Other snakes like my female BCI and the albino corn are out for most of the show. Most shows are 1 1/2 hours long.

As for the liability, I do not let anyone from the audience hold or touch any reptiles that I do not trust. Such as with Gates he does not belong to me and he can be very cranky sometimes. Gates belongs to my Vet Dr. Reed. When we take Gates out he is the only reptile out then. We also tell everyone they need to stay in there seats or we will put Gates away. Gates is about the only mistake I have made as he is too strong for me to handle by myself anymore. The problem I had with him is I had to carry him far one time back to my Jeep Cherokee and he did not like that. I do get funny looks going down the road as Gates is loose in the back of my Jeep and he sticks his head up sometimes to look out the window. LOL Last year he even poked his head up between the front seats and said hi to me. I just pulled over and pushed him back to the back. Now I always make sure there is stuff blocking his way so he can not get up front with me. LOL

Take care,

Tom McCarthy
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