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want to see if i can breed some pure jungles.
is it hard to breed them what do i do?

CAN YOU GUYS SHOW ME THE STEPS OF BREEDING THESE SNAKES?
(i have no clue how to breed so be specific!)

When you have snakes that are 2.5 years old then come back and ask. Seems to me that you are rushing things.
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I for the life of me can't figure out why someone of your stature on this forum, who claims to be here to help, would answer in such a rude and condescending fashion. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a harmless and credible question from someone who seeks to learn, as you once did. Why would you tell anyone to "come back later". If you didn't like his question, you should have left it alone.

I just think he needs to pace himself. Trying to rush into breeding while still asking questions about proper husbandry makes no sense. When the time comes the answers will too. Just not important now. That sort of info needs to be fresh in your mind and as of right now he needs to concentrate on just keep them healthy and happy.
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I understand your reasoning to a point, BUT, I would like to share my own experience and desire to know with you.

In 2001 I suddenly got the "snake bug"... it started with a little insectivore that crawled into my classroom, and went from there to a full blown obsession. First my husband and I purchased an '01 Rosy Boa from one of the top Rosy breeders (Randy Wright) and then when that didn't satisfy my interest in these critters, hubby and I bought three '01 cal kings from a local breeder. I read up EVERYTHING I could online about these snakes, including the "how to breed colubrids" caresheets. I read it that fall, and all the next full year, and again this spring, when I felt that my female kingsnake was of a size large enough to breed. Of course I didn't remember everything in the caresheets and how-to links, but I had a deep thirst to KNOW. I just wanted to read everything. I was not so impatient that I went and bought adult animals, I was content to wait, but I wanted to learn.

I'm sitting at my computer right now, and next to my computer is the home-made rubbermaid incubator for my snakes' eggs. Two have hatched and are in their own container, and the last three days have been wondrous as I've learned and watched the beginning of life for these baby snakes.

Now I have an '02 Jungle Carpet Python. She's rapidly become my favorite snake, I just am fascinated by how different she is compared to the colubrids in my collection. (I have one Rosy Boa, the rest are colubrids). I am fascinated by the thought of breeding her, perhaps when she IS 2.5 years old. That will be the first year I breed my '01 Arizona Mountain Kingsnake as well. BUT dang it all, I want to read about it, and read some more, and read even more. I don't even HAVE a male JCP, but that doesn't keep me from wanting to read how to breed them.

Anyway, I plan now to go to the provided links in this thread and learn all I can. I'm glad that the other one posted his question and received the blast instead of me.

>>I just think he needs to pace himself. Trying to rush into breeding while still asking questions about proper husbandry makes no sense. When the time comes the answers will too. Just not important now. That sort of info needs to be fresh in your mind and as of right now he needs to concentrate on just keep them healthy and happy.
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~Sasheena

Wish List:
0.1 adult Whitewater Rosy Boa
1.0 CB Spilotes Pullatus
1.0 Jungle Carpet Python

With the time you invested analyzing my post you could have answered his question yourself, so guess we're both in the wrong.
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I agree with your posts. Worrying about housing and husbandry should come first, with breeding second. You cant breed something you dont know how to keep. No need to rush things, unless your in it all for the money, which some people most definetly care about more than anything.
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"Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price"

Here is a link to a good paper in my oppinion for overall care of carpets. And other links on breeding.

Husbandry
Breeding
Breeding2
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http://reptiles.drivennewmedia.com/carpet_python_care.htm
http://www.morelia.ca/ijbreed.htm
http://www.morelia.ca/jbreed.htm
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Now that's the Kuroski everyone knows and loves .

Before I even looked at any of the replys I thought: Are you kidding! Just the way he worded it came off that he didn't really give a crap "want to see if i can breed some pure jungles" Great Man good for you. You shouldn't jump into things or ask advice about it in your circumstance when you should be caring about selecting the right bloodlines to continue. Some things shouldn't be done just because you can."i have no clue how to breed so be specific!)" Sounds like a little kid. Could someone please explain every thing there is to know about JCP's for me because I'm to damn lazy to do a simple google search and figure it out on my own. I have answered 99% of my questions on my own, because believe it or not they have all been answered already and they are easy to find. well now, I'm feling better! and please don't respond to this with some stupid: whats wrong with you? your to sensitive, grow some hair. HAHA get it we're all bald. Man am I funny!

You are just the funniest! So I guess it is your stance that everyone should figure things out for themselves and this forum should only be used to post pics of snakes and lack of hair. Maybe he is a kid. So what. He's trying. You need to grow up.Some people would rather learn than see pics of you.

Don't preach about bloodlines if you're going to show pics of yourself holding a "morph" boa.

Boo Hoo!! I'm a bigshot huh, thanks!

Sasheena did a nice job fielding the questions raised in the original post. Maybe you could study her response to learn the value of social skills. It's obvious from your presumptuous response that you believe that breeding should be left only to the extreme big shots like yourself. Take a pill big guy!

Scalawag

Bunch of over sensitive cry babies. This is an internet forum to learn yes, but if you ask a question you should be prepared for all kinds of feedback. Though it may come off a little harsh, sometimes that is whats needed when someone if moving to fast for their, and their snakes own good. I have worked with Reptiles for 6 years, and am only now starting a project of working with JCPs, IJs, and Hog's. The better questions to ask would be along the lines of "should I breed JCPS and end up with 20 hatchlings what am I going to do with them?" or "what is the sexual maturity for JCPs" Or "What are the cage requirements for JCPs". Maybe I am a big jerk. Oh well.
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"Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price"

Maybe.

Yourself. In my opinion, the 2nd two were just as bad, if not worse, that the original. What posesses you to swap pictures with your buddies here?

Scalawag

PS Don't worry, Brian looks just as silly as you. LOL!

You are incredibly clever, and far to witty for any comeback that I could ever think of. knuckle dragger in the pet store for six years huh? Okay, if personal attacks are a must then so be it. Oh and my pics are terrible? I give you that, they definetly arent the best of me, but I have done business with a few people on this forum and thought a face to go with the name might not be to harmfull. I really would hate for things to end for us on a sour note such as this, perhaps we could meet up at a show sometimes and talk about my arrogant, knuckledragging, ugly mug? Yes that would great!
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"Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price"

Is that a threat?

scalawag

LOL you think your worth that? Do you think you can get under my skin that much? Dont think so. Take it for what you will. If you would like to meet and discuss opposing viewpoints thats fine, but if your going to talk poo behind an annonymous screenname, I would have much more respect for you if you had the jewels and said them right to my face. I am sure you would say the same things right? In the mean time sit behind your shroud of a made up screenname, so you can sling negativity in every direction with no worries. I am sure that makes you feel like more of a man? In the mean time leave the advice and direction to those that have an idea as to what they are talking about, and arent looking to cause trouble. By the way post some pics of your snakes! LOL
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"Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price"

I put my males and females together and they breed. Everytime. Without fail. Does that answer your question?

If you don't know the specific questions about breeding Carpets that you need to ask to get to the next level, you are NOT ready to go to the next level. Breeding Carpets is easier than freakin' Leopard Geckos. The ins and outs were worked out 20 years ago and are pretty much EVERYWHERE on the internet. Its nothing new. 2 minutes spent out of your afternoon and you would have come up with more than enough to satiate your craving for breeding knowledge for months.

Come back with specific questions. Its no fun for anyone to right a recipe for breeding everytime some kid comes here and asks "How do I do EVERYTHING? Please list step-by-step". That sux for us. What do we get out of it? This place is to share and learn, not for breeders to tell nu-bees how to do everything and regurgitate stuff that's out on the Net in at least 200 different places (websites).

You ask "what do we get out of it"? What did anyone who ever gave you information or advice get out of it??? You say "this place is to share and learn". He's trying to learn! You are the most arrogant bunch of people I've ever heard on ANY of these forums. You are an embarrassment to Kingsnake. You should be ashamed of your response. If you don't want to help the kid out, fine. Don't respond. Save the "holier than thou" attitude. Nobody's impressed.

Because that was not the intent. The intent is to stop posts of the nature "tell me everything even though I don't even know the questions to ask". It happens on EVERY forum and EVERY time, there's a hundred people that pos the same thing as I did above. This time it was me because I had 10 minutes to kill before my girlfriend picked me up. No biggie. You don't have to spaz. If you don't like the replies, don't read them. I have no idea why you get so worked up. I think of kingsnake.com as a DISCUSSION board. Not a place where you say "Tell me everything about Carpets". WTF? That's not a discussion. That's someone who's either too lazy or too illiterate to spend the 2 minutes to get the answers themselves.

Nes pas?

isn't as sophisticated as YOU and that knucklehead bragging about his six whole years in the pet store. Maybe the poor guy asking the question didn't realize that people of "genius", like yourselves, have little tolerance for the ignorant little people like himself. I suppose it would have been inconcievable to give the guy advice without demeaning him?

Scalawag

PS What's up with the guy posting pics of his snake in response to the questions raised in this post? Does he really need attention THAT much?

is not isn't - whoops, I didn't mean to insult your intelligence!

scalawag

But thanks for the compliment. Not the adjective I would have used, but hey......

I don't get you man. Some kid posted a thread about wanting to know everything about breeding Jungles, when he doesn't even know how to keep a single specimen. So the people who have actually bred a few generations of Jungles piped up and told him to walk before he runs and you get all high and mighty and act like we slaughtered his dog. What the f**k? And instead if disagreeing with our posts (which is awesome, because that's where great discussions/debates START) you try to make it personal and flame us? I never said anything derogatory against anyone, yet for some reason, you feel the need to use monikers like "genius" and "knucklehead".

Way cool (sarcasm implied).

And if you think this kid should have all this breeding info, why haven't you typed a few words for him to digest? Seems rather strange to me.

With all the time you have spent filling the forum with useless posts, you could have helped out instead. That is if you know anything about them, or even keep them for that matter.
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take a look back through this forum and see who has always been there when a question was asked. The answer: you guys. I am fairly new to the snake world in comparison, but I often give my help when I can because I have recently went through the same thing as most beginners. So this guy or girl??haha is going to give everyone crap from one post. He/she needs to take a step back and look at the big picture and then I think she would see who is the real person with the problem. Later I have to go cry about how bad my picture is and put on my knuckle pads.

I guess you have learned how to build your plastic cage and
won't house a spotted with it. Now your ready to breed.

Mardy

lol im not to good to help someone out,,,,,,,,,email me and ill give you some of the best breeding tips,,,,this board seems to be for hens and cocks lmao,,,,,,Greg