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I had two crested eggs layed 79 days ago. Well on was getting indented and just not looking good so after much debate I cut it open. Inside was a perfectly formed gecko, dead. No yoke let. The egg looked as if it was too thick for it to get out. Well, now I have another egg layed on the same day by the same female. It still looks good. Bigger then the dead egg. But now I am wondering if I should slit this egg to and help this little guy out. I don't want it to die, so..... Any advice on what to do. Should I wait or should I slit the egg. They where incubated at room temp, high 60's low 70's. Help please.

Thanks,
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Anna

1.0.0 Ball Python {Shane}
1.0.0 Afican Bullfrog {Bungy}
2.2.8 Crested Geckos {Mel, Harley, Sally, Momma, unnamed}
0.0.1 Giant Black African Millipede {Milly}
2.0.0 Parakeets {Storm, Cloud}
4.0.0 Button Quails {Bob, unnamed}
1.0.0 Short Tail Possum {Eddie}
3.0.0 Pet Rats {Carlos, Ibin, Meany}
1.1.0 Dogs Lab/Pionter mix,German Shepherd {Vegas,Nevada}
2.1.0 Kitties {Kenny, Sebation, Phoebe}
1.0.0 Betta {George}
1.0.0 Boyfriend {Brian}
1 fish tanks with lots of fish
2 Crested Gecko eggs layed 5/18
2 more Crested Gecko eggs layed 7/24
And the bugs

Thats it for now.....

Your incubation temperatures are too low, in my opinion. At such cool temperatures, there is a very good chance that the geckos will not hatch. When people say that they incubate their ciliatus eggs at "room temperature," you have to bare in mind that most people keep their reptile rooms in the mid 70's to low 80's.

At this point, I would probably just leave the egg alone, but it's a toss up. Incubation time can vary greatly from one egg to the next, so you may cut the egg open and find a very small, immature baby gecko...then again, it may be fully formed and already dead in the egg.

In the future, I would make sure that the incubation temperature is kept at an average temperature in the mid 70's.

-Anthony

>>I had two crested eggs layed 79 days ago. Well on was getting indented and just not looking good so after much debate I cut it open. Inside was a perfectly formed gecko, dead. No yoke let. The egg looked as if it was too thick for it to get out. Well, now I have another egg layed on the same day by the same female. It still looks good. Bigger then the dead egg. But now I am wondering if I should slit this egg to and help this little guy out. I don't want it to die, so..... Any advice on what to do. Should I wait or should I slit the egg. They where incubated at room temp, high 60's low 70's. Help please.
>>
>>Thanks,
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>>Anna
>>
>>1.0.0 Ball Python {Shane}
>>1.0.0 Afican Bullfrog {Bungy}
>>2.2.8 Crested Geckos {Mel, Harley, Sally, Momma, unnamed}
>>0.0.1 Giant Black African Millipede {Milly}
>>2.0.0 Parakeets {Storm, Cloud}
>>4.0.0 Button Quails {Bob, unnamed}
>>1.0.0 Short Tail Possum {Eddie}
>>3.0.0 Pet Rats {Carlos, Ibin, Meany}
>>1.1.0 Dogs Lab/Pionter mix,German Shepherd {Vegas,Nevada}
>>2.1.0 Kitties {Kenny, Sebation, Phoebe}
>>1.0.0 Betta {George}
>>1.0.0 Boyfriend {Brian}
>>1 fish tanks with lots of fish
>>2 Crested Gecko eggs layed 5/18
>>2 more Crested Gecko eggs layed 7/24
>>And the bugs
>>
>>Thats it for now.....
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

I checked the rhac book and going by them my temps are fine. The book states 68-82. It also said at these temps it can take 70-75 days to hatch. The egg that was dead did not look good. It was bumpy on the bottom and very thick inside. The other egg is perfect, and is bigger then the other.

>>Your incubation temperatures are too low, in my opinion. At such cool temperatures, there is a very good chance that the geckos will not hatch. When people say that they incubate their ciliatus eggs at "room temperature," you have to bare in mind that most people keep their reptile rooms in the mid 70's to low 80's.
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>>At this point, I would probably just leave the egg alone, but it's a toss up. Incubation time can vary greatly from one egg to the next, so you may cut the egg open and find a very small, immature baby gecko...then again, it may be fully formed and already dead in the egg.
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>>In the future, I would make sure that the incubation temperature is kept at an average temperature in the mid 70's.
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>>-Anthony
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>>>>I had two crested eggs layed 79 days ago. Well on was getting indented and just not looking good so after much debate I cut it open. Inside was a perfectly formed gecko, dead. No yoke let. The egg looked as if it was too thick for it to get out. Well, now I have another egg layed on the same day by the same female. It still looks good. Bigger then the dead egg. But now I am wondering if I should slit this egg to and help this little guy out. I don't want it to die, so..... Any advice on what to do. Should I wait or should I slit the egg. They where incubated at room temp, high 60's low 70's. Help please.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>-----
>>>>Anna
>>>>
>>>>1.0.0 Ball Python {Shane}
>>>>1.0.0 Afican Bullfrog {Bungy}
>>>>2.2.8 Crested Geckos {Mel, Harley, Sally, Momma, unnamed}
>>>>0.0.1 Giant Black African Millipede {Milly}
>>>>2.0.0 Parakeets {Storm, Cloud}
>>>>4.0.0 Button Quails {Bob, unnamed}
>>>>1.0.0 Short Tail Possum {Eddie}
>>>>3.0.0 Pet Rats {Carlos, Ibin, Meany}
>>>>1.1.0 Dogs Lab/Pionter mix,German Shepherd {Vegas,Nevada}
>>>>2.1.0 Kitties {Kenny, Sebation, Phoebe}
>>>>1.0.0 Betta {George}
>>>>1.0.0 Boyfriend {Brian}
>>>>1 fish tanks with lots of fish
>>>>2 Crested Gecko eggs layed 5/18
>>>>2 more Crested Gecko eggs layed 7/24
>>>>And the bugs
>>>>
>>>>Thats it for now.....
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>>----------------------------------
>>Anthony Caponetto
>>www.ACreptiles.com
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Anna

1.0.0 Ball Python {Shane}
1.0.0 Afican Bullfrog {Bungy}
2.2.8 Crested Geckos {Mel, Harley, Sally, Momma, unnamed}
0.0.1 Giant Black African Millipede {Milly}
2.0.0 Parakeets {Storm, Cloud}
4.0.0 Button Quails {Bob, unnamed}
1.0.0 Short Tail Possum {Eddie}
3.0.0 Pet Rats {Carlos, Ibin, Meany}
1.1.0 Dogs Lab/Pionter mix,German Shepherd {Vegas,Nevada}
2.1.0 Kitties {Kenny, Sebation, Phoebe}
1.0.0 Betta {George}
1.0.0 Boyfriend {Brian}
1 fish tanks with lots of fish
2 Crested Gecko eggs layed 5/18
2 more Crested Gecko eggs layed 7/24
And the bugs

Thats it for now.....

I have had eggs not hatch for 75 days before and was ready to give up and open them only to have them hatch.In fact of the 50 or so that I have incubated I have never had one not hatch, This seems to conflict with hatch rates that you hear and read about.
While the method I use to incubate is contrary to some of the info out there this is what I do. I never breed my females untill they are well over the magic 35 gram size( full grown and fat!). Breeders are fed daily for several weeks prior to being introduced.Eggs are laid in wet bed-a-beast(coco fiber). I remove the eggs and leave them in the coco fiber for the entire incubation period. The eggs are kept 3/4 of the way covered and are misted daily. At about 60 days the the eggs will be distinctly rounder and start to show surface cracks and discoloring(maybe from the coco fiber) once this appears I spray the eggs themselves dailly untill they hatch. Do not leave the eggs in standing water! but keep them wet.My room stays in the 70s. Good Luck! Noel

Here is what i would do if I were you. I would increase the temperature of the incubation up to about 76-78F. This should induce the baby to finish it's incubation a bit quicker as well as make it what would seem "more active" inside the egg, more like giving the little guy that boost to get out of the egg. I think you should keep the eggs at a minimum of 70F, I personally keep my eggs at 76-78 all time and they hatch after about 60 days or so...They are quite larger than alot of species when they hatch, and very easy to care for...Good luck...Leland-D.W.Geckos

>>Here is what i would do if I were you. I would increase the temperature of the incubation up to about 76-78F. This should induce the baby to finish it's incubation a bit quicker as well as make it what would seem "more active" inside the egg, more like giving the little guy that boost to get out of the egg. I think you should keep the eggs at a minimum of 70F, I personally keep my eggs at 76-78 all time and they hatch after about 60 days or so...They are quite larger than alot of species when they hatch, and very easy to care for...Good luck...Leland-D.W.Geckos

Ok, let me clairify on the temps. High 60's at night (69 rarely below that) Low to mid 70's daytime (72-75 sometimes up to 79) The 2nd egg looks good. I was thinking and remembered that acouple weeks ago my bad cat knocked over the eggs. I don't care if the hatch fast or slow as long as they hatch. They could take 100 days as long as they are healthy. Also I have no way as of right now to up the temps.
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Anna

1.0.0 Ball Python {Shane}
1.0.0 Afican Bullfrog {Bungy}
2.2.8 Crested Geckos {Mel, Harley, Sally, Momma, unnamed}
0.0.1 Giant Black African Millipede {Milly}
2.0.0 Parakeets {Storm, Cloud}
4.0.0 Button Quails {Bob, unnamed}
1.0.0 Short Tail Possum {Eddie}
3.0.0 Pet Rats {Carlos, Ibin, Meany}
1.1.0 Dogs Lab/Pionter mix,German Shepherd {Vegas,Nevada}
2.1.0 Kitties {Kenny, Sebation, Phoebe}
1.0.0 Betta {George}
1.0.0 Boyfriend {Brian}
1 fish tanks with lots of fish
2 Crested Gecko eggs layed 5/18
2 more Crested Gecko eggs layed 7/24
And the bugs

Thats it for now.....

AH HA ! the bad cat did it! figures.

Yeah...I've read that book too and I've also produced a couple of Crested Geckos. Where the book says 68-82, that's exactly what it means...not "high 60's to low 70's." The difference you're obviously not noticing there is that the author's eggs get up to 82 degrees at times, whereas your eggs are not being allowed to get that warm. If the eggs get up to 82 during the warmest part of the day and then back down to 68 at night, they're going to hatch in 70-75 days.

You said yourself that your eggs aren't getting any warmer than the low 70's, so you can't logically expect them to hatch anywhere near as soon as eggs that have been allowed to get up to 82 degrees on a daily basis.

Like I said before, I don't know that I'd even expect them to hatch at all if kept that cool all the time.

-Anthony

>>I checked the rhac book and going by them my temps are fine. The book states 68-82. It also said at these temps it can take 70-75 days to hatch. The egg that was dead did not look good. It was bumpy on the bottom and very thick inside. The other egg is perfect, and is bigger then the other.
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>>>>Your incubation temperatures are too low, in my opinion. At such cool temperatures, there is a very good chance that the geckos will not hatch. When people say that they incubate their ciliatus eggs at "room temperature," you have to bare in mind that most people keep their reptile rooms in the mid 70's to low 80's.
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>>>>At this point, I would probably just leave the egg alone, but it's a toss up. Incubation time can vary greatly from one egg to the next, so you may cut the egg open and find a very small, immature baby gecko...then again, it may be fully formed and already dead in the egg.
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>>>>In the future, I would make sure that the incubation temperature is kept at an average temperature in the mid 70's.
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>>>>-Anthony
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>>>>>>I had two crested eggs layed 79 days ago. Well on was getting indented and just not looking good so after much debate I cut it open. Inside was a perfectly formed gecko, dead. No yoke let. The egg looked as if it was too thick for it to get out. Well, now I have another egg layed on the same day by the same female. It still looks good. Bigger then the dead egg. But now I am wondering if I should slit this egg to and help this little guy out. I don't want it to die, so..... Any advice on what to do. Should I wait or should I slit the egg. They where incubated at room temp, high 60's low 70's. Help please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>Anna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.0.0 Ball Python {Shane}
>>>>>>1.0.0 Afican Bullfrog {Bungy}
>>>>>>2.2.8 Crested Geckos {Mel, Harley, Sally, Momma, unnamed}
>>>>>>0.0.1 Giant Black African Millipede {Milly}
>>>>>>2.0.0 Parakeets {Storm, Cloud}
>>>>>>4.0.0 Button Quails {Bob, unnamed}
>>>>>>1.0.0 Short Tail Possum {Eddie}
>>>>>>3.0.0 Pet Rats {Carlos, Ibin, Meany}
>>>>>>1.1.0 Dogs Lab/Pionter mix,German Shepherd {Vegas,Nevada}
>>>>>>2.1.0 Kitties {Kenny, Sebation, Phoebe}
>>>>>>1.0.0 Betta {George}
>>>>>>1.0.0 Boyfriend {Brian}
>>>>>>1 fish tanks with lots of fish
>>>>>>2 Crested Gecko eggs layed 5/18
>>>>>>2 more Crested Gecko eggs layed 7/24
>>>>>>And the bugs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thats it for now.....
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>>>>----------------------------------
>>>>Anthony Caponetto
>>>>www.ACreptiles.com
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>>Anna
>>
>>1.0.0 Ball Python {Shane}
>>1.0.0 Afican Bullfrog {Bungy}
>>2.2.8 Crested Geckos {Mel, Harley, Sally, Momma, unnamed}
>>0.0.1 Giant Black African Millipede {Milly}
>>2.0.0 Parakeets {Storm, Cloud}
>>4.0.0 Button Quails {Bob, unnamed}
>>1.0.0 Short Tail Possum {Eddie}
>>3.0.0 Pet Rats {Carlos, Ibin, Meany}
>>1.1.0 Dogs Lab/Pionter mix,German Shepherd {Vegas,Nevada}
>>2.1.0 Kitties {Kenny, Sebation, Phoebe}
>>1.0.0 Betta {George}
>>1.0.0 Boyfriend {Brian}
>>1 fish tanks with lots of fish
>>2 Crested Gecko eggs layed 5/18
>>2 more Crested Gecko eggs layed 7/24
>>And the bugs
>>
>>Thats it for now.....
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

I've hatched all of my eggs at room temperatures, which in the winter here in Wisconsin might be as low as mid-60s. Some of my clutches have taken as long as 4.5 months to hatch, but sturdy, healthy babies always result. My 14th clutch is due soon, and so far I still have had 100% hatch rate. So with all due respect to Anthony C., whom I greatly admire, I say "Relax"!
Terri
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Terri
4:8:14 crested geckos Popcorn, Goldfish, Harley, Bear, Big Red, Olive, Smudge, Blackie, Belle, Brilliant, Tina, Brick, Lefty, Tiger, Tony, Avis & Subtle, Chocolate & Vanilla, Toni(y), Kermit, Sharp & Sassy, Zipper & Ladder.