Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Hi. I breed from this fella and because I don't like quoting "possible hets" when selling hatchlings, I usually just quote the parents (e.g. male Orange Amel x female Snow). However, "Orange Amel" doesn't seem to do him justice - is there a better term for him? For info, when I breed him to a Snow, I get around half-and-half Snow and pale-looking Amel hatchlings.

Any ideas gratefully received.

In case it helps, here's his belly...

Nice hypo!!!

You mean het for amel & het for anery.

Kerby...

It's an interesting suggestion, but I think if he was a Hypo het amel & anery, then when I breed him with a Snow I'd expect to see a few Normals & Anerys, which I've never had.

Going by offspring, I guess it's always possible that he's an Amel with a het for hypo as well as anery, but the only way I could prove that is with a proper long-term breeding program using the offspring (not something I'm geared up for, unfortunately).

Though that is technically correct, it is becomming more and more appropriate to say that an animal is "het snow," since 99.9% of corn enthusiasts understand what is meant by such.
-----
Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

I don't see the orange! Could be my monitor. Amel usually have some red,orange and sometimes white(grey).

Could be your monitor, as he's all shades of orange, with very little white apart from his belly. None of the more traditional pink/red and no grey.

He is a regular amel, he has been proven to be het anery...

Luke

Presuming it has red eyes, it might be het. for hypo, but from the outcome of the clutch, it's amelanistic.
South Mountain Reptiles

Don't know if it adds to the confusion, but he has orange eyes!

There might be some Hypo in there, but I have no way of proving it. I'm pretty sure I'd still expect to see the 50-50 Snow/Amel split in the offspring when I breed him with my Snow.

Looks like I'll be sticking to describing him as "Amel" when I sell his hatchlings. Would anyone object to me describing him as an "Orange Amel" or "High Yellow Amel"? He doesn't fit the standard pink/red Amel colour that people expect to see and I'd like to be more forthcoming about what buyers can expect the hatchlings to look like when they mature. On the other hand, I don't want to feel that I'm misrepresenting anything.

I'm not an expert, but to be, he loosk like a Carmel, or an Okeetee.

Well I can't see the eyes on the corn, so it is hard for me to say for sure. if the snake has red eyes it is an Amel Corn with very little white (some call them sunglows) if it has normal eyes then it is a nice Hypo with very little white. I see a bit of white trim around the chevrons where the black would normally be so I am assuming that it is an Amel. they are very pretty snakes.
Thanks
-----
Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Thanks Jim. His eyes are orange, so that's another vote for Amel. Interesting stuff.

And yep, though I say it myself, he's a real good-looker! It was a lucky day when I accidentally chose him as a hatchling. He had the more traditional pink/red colour of an Amel back then, just lighter than you'd expect. Until he was around six months old, he looked permanently as though he was about to shed when compared to the ordinary Amel hatchling I'd bought at the same time. All that yellow really started to come through when he was about a year old.

This is another classic example of how no one can really tell what morph a corn is by the picture posted. I am visitng with family and not using my computer BUT your picture gives the appearance of hypo, hands down...but thats just how it appears on this pc. Like Jim said, if it has red eyes than there is no question..its amel.
-----
Sincerely,
Jason
-----