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Looking at getting a Baird's

crtoon83 Aug 07, 2004 02:40 PM

to add to my collection....I found on the classifieds some by Shawn Lockhart, 2004 babies, $25 each. Compared to my licorice stick, this is a GOOD PRICE. lol. But I know also i'm comparing apples to oranges here. Is this a decent price for a 2004 c/b bairds?

Also, I currently have a 10 gallon tank sitting out in my garage with a bunch of crap in it, if I cleaned it out and got a locking top well would this be a good starter home for this guy until I can get the new cage built? These guys only grow 4-5 feet also, correct?

Thanks!
-Chris
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -Unknown

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crtoon83 Aug 07, 2004 03:02 PM

Which are usually more colorful? Males or females? And I always forget, it's listed 2.6 ....is that 2 males 6 females or the other way around?

thanks
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -Unknown

draybar Aug 07, 2004 05:08 PM

2.6 is two males and six females.
$25.00 is a very good price.
Bairdis are well worth it.
I really don't know if males or females look any better or color any more.
My male has more yellow while the female has more bronze but I can't see where one has any more overall color then the other.
I'll tell you the same thing I have been telling everyone else,
You won't regret owning a bairdi or two.
Jimmy

crtoon83 Aug 07, 2004 05:57 PM

i'm now considering getting one male one female. Right now i'm about to start building a large cage system. I have a licorice stick female and a neonate black rat male. i'm planning on building two cages that will stack, 6 feet long, 2 or 2.25 feet tall, 3 feet deep. (are these good dimensions?) i'm going to build a third one same dimensions to put on top of these two. What I may do is split that one down the middle and have the biards on each side, since they are smaller snakes and won't require as large of a space. (i'm hoping this will be their final house and live the rest of their lives in this size enclousre).
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -Unknown

Gargoyle420 Aug 08, 2004 07:42 AM

He has a bunch of us cornheads buying ratsnakes.Everytime I see a pic of his yellow and everglades I want more dang snakes.Now Im getting a high orange female from Terry.My wifes bringing on the pain because she just barely tolerates them,or me,im not real sure.Jimmy is a great guy just dont look at his excellent pics or your gonna be building a heck of alot more cages...Paul

Mark Banczak Aug 08, 2004 08:18 AM

Hi orange???High yellow??
Tough call over which I prefer. They all look so good. Of course, I currently don't have any - yet. There is a show here in Tucson at the end of the month. If someone has some nice Bairds, I doubt I could walk away.

Gargoyle420 Aug 08, 2004 03:24 PM

High orange and yellow.

terryp Aug 08, 2004 06:39 PM

in Tucson Mark. If you don't see any at the show, Don Gallagher in Phoenix has some outstanding rat snakes. He bred a VIVID bairds to a Adam Block bairds last year. The offspring went pretty quick if I remember right.

Terry Parks

draybar Aug 08, 2004 11:25 AM

>>You are getting sleeeeepy........
when you awake you will have this uncontrollable urge to get more rat snakes..especially Bairdis.....HA HA HA HA HA
OOPS...I think I hypnotized myself...lol

"resistance is futile"

Jimmy

terryp Aug 08, 2004 12:44 PM

I shouldn't change the subject of the thread, but you did mention everglades Paul. Here's a male glades. There wasn't any mention of him being a morph, but I would think he's possibly a hypomelanistic glades

Terry Parks

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Gargoyle420 Aug 08, 2004 03:26 PM

That is one sweet everglades Terry.

carl3 Aug 09, 2004 11:06 PM

Paul could not have said it better!
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Sincerely,
Jason

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I'm stopping at 60...I swear!

crtoon83 Aug 07, 2004 07:40 PM

I have a 10 gallon tank, and I am getting a couple bard's CB 2004 snakes. I have never taken care of newborn snakes before. I went down to the pet store and bought a tuff-top and some clips. I was looking at this top on the tank and it does not seem very tight at all, and my grandma lives with us and she would probably would literally have a heart attack if any of my snakes got out, and I was just wondering if there really is a chance of these snakes getting out of this small tank. I looked into getting a reptile tank from a local pet store that has a sliding locking top but they are $57 for a 10 gallon. Since the 10 gallon has no hinge on the top, I was thinking maybe I could glue some hinges on the back so they are stuck there right up against it, then maybe put some foam weatherstripping around it or maybe hot glue or something to fill in the crack. Thanks for the input.
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -Unknown

Mark Banczak Aug 08, 2004 08:29 AM

Your idea for creating a snug lid sounds good to me. Just be sure to do it right away. I can promise you, if the lid isn't secure, the snake will get out. That is an absolute certainty.
My concern is that it sounds like you are looking to put hinges on a cage that was designed with a slide top. It could be tough to do that and make it more secure than the original cage. IMO slide top cages are generally designed well enough to be a secure, if they are used right and closed carefully each time. If possible, check it thoroughly at the store to make sure the top doesn't leave any gaps and you should probably be OK.
Little snakes can be very, very tough to find - no matter how thoroughly you search. They can hide in tiny little spots and get overlooked. I've told this story before but I've had a hatchling that stayed on the lamb for 187 days. He was recaptured and did fine after that ordeal. they are resilient little buggers.
Good luck and have fun with the new pets.

tempest Aug 08, 2004 09:03 AM

Plastic shoeboxes sure do work good for hatchling snakes. You could get one of those rubbermaid boxes with the snaps on the lid and be confident that the little dudes aren't going anywhere.

terryp Aug 08, 2004 01:17 PM

Chris -
That's a good price for a 04' CB bairds rat snake. I assume they are Texas Bairds, although you didn't mention if they are Texas or Mexican bairds.
A 10 gallon tank will make a good enclosure for your bairds. I would suggest putting him in there when he is about 1 year old though. I would pickup a shoe box size rubbermaid or sterilite container to keep him in for awhile. Baby rat snakes seem to feel more comfortable in smaller containers. They seem less fidgety and/or flighty when kept in smaller more secure feeling enclosures at least until about 6 months IMHO. A 10 gallon tank will most certainly work for you right now if that is what you would like to do. I'm just making a suggestion and don't mean to imply a 10 gallon tank won't work now. Good luck with your new addition if you decide to get him. Another suggestion if it's in the budget would be to get a pair at that price. It shouldn't add to the shipping cost so it's like getting one at no shipping costs. You can always sell one to one of your friends who comes over and wants one. HeHe. That's if you decide not to keep both.

Terry Parks

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crtoon83 Aug 08, 2004 08:45 PM

lol..i've already contacted him and said I want a male/female pair, lol. $50 for the pair, $40 to ship both. Damn good deal. They are texas bairds, forgot to distinguish.

on the tank, i was going to get a sliding top tank but they are just too expensive so i'm doing this hinged lid on a regular 10 gallon...i will post pix in the next couple days when it's finished. The snakes won't be here until the 17th, next tuesday (because I get my paycheck this friday and im kinda broke, lol.)

oh and Gargoyle - i feel your pain, man. I still live at home, so it's me, my mom, grandma, one cat, 6 dogs, and my 2 (soon to be 4) snakes kept in my room. My grandma is so scared of snakes she can't even see one on TV...but I have solved the problem about her rearranging my room when i'm not at home :D.

I was planning on starting to build a large stacked cage, 6 feet long, all three tanks would be two feet high and three deep, but the top tank bisected to form two. the bottom two will house my licorice stick and neonate black rats, the top two house my bairds (since they are smaller snakes). does this sound like a good plan? Also, as far as germ transfer, if i placed vents on both sides of all 3 levels, sealed the levels with silicone on the top and bottom, would i have to worry about if one gets sick, getting the other sick as well?

Yeah, i know they'll be ugly ducklings when I get them but I can't wait until they grow...about how long would you expect before they start showing color?

Thanks for everyones input.
-Chris
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -Unknown

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