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I have an Albino Green Male Burm and he is the sweetest snake, always has been. I really want to breed him and was thinking about getting a female Green Burm who is 100% het for Albino and even 25%(i think that was the number) het for Labrynth. Anywho, breeding these two snake, I got confused about what the outcome of the offspring would be. I drew a punnit(Sp?) square and took a crack at it. Am I right in thinking that the offspring woulf be 25% Albino Green, 25% Albino het for Green, 25% Green Het for Albino, and 25% Normals Het for Albino and Green? I'm not concerned about the Dam's 25% heterozygousy, as that would just confuse me more, lol. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Cathy
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Cathy Hrusa
poetichusky@hotmail.com
Future Ball Python Breeder
~My Ever-growing herp Collection~
0.4 Normal Ball Pythons
1.0 Albino Green Burmese Python
0.0.2 Normal Leopard geckos
0.1 Bearded Dragon
0.1 FL Cooter
1.0 Sunburst X Blue Veiled Chameleon

you are close, but off on a few things. If the female was a green het for albino, and the male is an albino green you would get:

50% green het for albino
And 50% albino green.

If she is het for laby, then you would get half of your greens het for laby, and half of your albino greens het for laby.

Good luck
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1.0 Albino Green Burm
0.2 Normal Burm
1.1 Java Retic

Here's the outcome:
1/2 green (heterozygous albino)
1/2 green albino

I won't pay attention to the 25% probability heterozygous labyrinth. It is probably normal there and certainly won't make a difference to the babies' appearances.

You seem to have gone off track by using green albino x heterozygous green, heterozygous albino instead of green albino x green, heterozygous albino.

Heterozygous albino = 100% probability heterozygous albino. Stamp out and eliminate redunancy!

Hope this helps.

Paul Hollander

Thanks for the info guys. I get confused when it comes to genetics and punnit squares. I don't really have a complete grasp on it all. But, I did decide to get the girl. I'm getting her from Marcia at Tango River Reptiles for a steal. She's coming August 24th(I can barely wait). She's just a hatchling, born in the end of June. I'm really excited about the future project. I was even thinking of getting into the Labyrinth gene somewhere, seen as how she does have a 1 in 4 chance of being het for Labby. That would get even more confusing, so I'll focus on what I want to do first. Thanks for the info again!
-Cathy Hrusa
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Cathy Hrusa
poetichusky@hotmail.com
Future Burmese and Ball Python Breeder
~My Ever-growing herp Collection~
0.4 Normal Ball Pythons
1.0 Albino Green Burmese Python
0.0.3 Normal Leopard geckos
0.1 Bearded Dragon
0.1 FL Cooter
1.0 Sunburst X Blue Veiled Chameleon
On the way...
0.1 Green Het for Albino Burmese Python
1.0 Het for Albino Ball Python

Genetics can get confusing at times. If you can find an albino green male het for laby, or an albino laby male het for green, it would be a good way to test her for being het for laby, without ending up with just het offspring. Cause if she is het, she will give the gene to half her offspring. And you could end up with green labys, or albino green labys. If your lucky.

Have fun and Good Luck breeding her.
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1.0 Albino Green Burm
0.2 Normal Burm
1.1 Java Retic

This is where I show how little I know,

I always thought green burms were also called patternless, and I thought labs were called labs cause of their pattern, What would a patternless lab look like?

I know I must be missing something, does anyone have a pic?

Greens are also called patternless and Labs are called labs because of their pattern. I cant tell you that I know what a green labyrinth would look like. But If you were to breed two animals together so that some of your offspring would have the gene for both patterns, it would be a green laby. It is the same thing as an albino green or albino laby. But there is only a pigment difference in one of those genes, not a pattern difference.

I have never seen one, and I would love to see what the two genes would do. If one gene is stronger than the other, and will dominate, or if they will somhow co-mingle in there and mix it all up. If anyone has any pics of animals like this, please share them. Green granites, granite labys, green labys. I am very curious to see the outcome, and I hope to produce some mixtures of my own in a few years.
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1.0 Albino Green Burm
0.2 Normal Burm
1.1 Java Retic

DR. Owens (Jay Owens) who frequents BC forums produced an albino green labyrinth as well as a green labyrinth from a triple het to a triple het breeding. HE is the only person I have heard of that has successfully combined the traits and the offspring, as juveniles did have a distinct and unique appearance. Hope this helps a little. Todd

Hi Cathy,
Your baby's father is Skyzer. I purchased him in 99 as a possible quad het: albino, green, labyrinth, and cinnamon. He was bred by Ian Gniadnowski (sp). The cinnamon genetics have never cleared but we know cinnamon doesn't follow a predictable pattern. Skyzer proved the abino and green last year with the same female that incubated this clutch. Her name is O and she is an albino green. I've tried to purchase female labs for the past two years but haven't been successful. I'm still looking. If I prove him in the labyrinth department, I'll let you know.
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Marcia Pimentel
Tango River Reptiles (Off-line Temporarily)
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