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Since we are talking about Boa c. sabogae....

H+E Stoeckl Aug 12, 2004 08:10 PM

The photos of Boa c. sabogae that have been posted here so far (including the photos that I have posted) don't represent the entire range of this subspecies but only those of them who are regarded as beautiful by most of the people because they are what is called "clean".

But there are many Boa c. sabogae (actually the majority?) who are not clean but spangled with black speckles.

Here is such an animal in order to introduce you to the entire range of appearence of this rare subspecies.
Boa constrictor
Boa constrictor

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H+E Stoeckl Aug 12, 2004 08:11 PM

And here is what you probably like more...
Boa constrictor
Boa constrictor

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herpconsultants2 Aug 12, 2004 09:23 PM

....salmon!

(sorry, couldn't resist!).

p.s. Hermann, we need to get in contact again!

Randall_Turner Aug 13, 2004 01:44 PM

no post
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East TN Reptile Aug 13, 2004 05:02 PM

Are you breeding them?
Dave @ East TN Reptiles
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H+E Stoeckl Aug 14, 2004 09:45 PM

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Boa constrictor

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KennethZweerink Aug 13, 2004 12:28 AM

np

KennethZweerink Aug 13, 2004 01:16 AM

Hi Hermann,
I want to say Thank You,for the Very informative web-site.it is one of the Best, i know you cant tell locality by appearence, but you can sometime's get a pretty good idea,The Salmon Boa Project started with what is called "The Mystery Boa" possibly Central American or Panama not really known, the info. in your web-site under Boa c. sabogae you state that the "Hypo Salmon Boa" is a cross between animal's from Panama & Colombia,Boa c.sabogae being from the Pearl Island's and a few other Island's off the Coast of Panama,i just wondered if you was making an Educated quess on the Locality of the mistery Boa by appearence ? And if you was to make an Educated quess what would you say the chance's are that the Mistery Boa from the Salmon Project was Boa c. sabogae ?
Have A Good One ! !
Kenneth

chicagopsych Aug 13, 2004 03:35 PM

Other naturally hypo boas i.e. hog islands and Central Americans have full saddle patterns and would not fully explain the look of current salmons . But these have very similar dorsal saddles in addition to the color as hypo/salmon Columbians.

H+E Stoeckl Aug 14, 2004 12:07 PM

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Boa constrictor

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KennethZweerink Aug 14, 2004 12:48 PM

I think She's under (about us) on there web-site.It's a pic. from 1991 take a look, any input would be appreciated.
Thank's

Kenneth

KennethZweerink Aug 14, 2004 02:19 PM

Have you read the article by Rich Ihle "The Salmon Project" it was in Reptile's Magazine in December 2002,the article is also on there web-site.The similarity between Boa c.sabogae,and the "Hypo Salmon" offspring is amazing "Like Pea's in The Pod" Like you say on your site if your lucky enough to find and purchase Boa c. sabogae,make sure there is no "Doubt" in the Paper Trail.
Have A Good One ! !
Kenneth

H+E Stoeckl Aug 14, 2004 08:33 PM

1991, where this animal transpired is 13 years in the past and I am sure that the stock of wildlife boa c. sabogae was in a better condition then as today. It is safe to assume that there used to be a wider range in appearence at that time because more specimens existed.

I have 3 pairs of Boa c. sabogae and one of them is very dark and not hypomelanistic at all. I would not exclude that the "mistery boa" is a boa c. sabogae. But it is surely not within the range of appearence of the sabogaes that Rich and I own.
Boa constrictor

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KennethZweerink Aug 14, 2004 10:07 PM

np

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