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identify sara please

xelabou Aug 16, 2004 07:42 PM

All I have now are some crappy pictures from a webcam.
Do your best to identify it please, I took her for many angles.
Image
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Alex & Marie-Čve

Replies (12)

chris_mcmartin Aug 16, 2004 09:03 PM

collaris from back east (like a forested area). I could be WAY off, though!
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

jeune18 Aug 16, 2004 09:54 PM

not to burst any bubbles but are you sure sara is a female? her chin area looks really spotty for being a girl. i have a female lizard named ivan because i thought she was a boy when i first got her.
also i am going to have to go with that she looks like the eastern collareds because she looks alot like my lizards and they are just the regular old c. collaris (i get a little confused on scientific and common names so if that isn't the same thing will someone please tell me)
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vonnie
***One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne***

xelabou Aug 17, 2004 06:10 AM

She doesn't have the big white scales row and she got 2 black spots both side of "vent" area. Im 99 % sure it's a female, she just loves to look at herself in the mirror
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Alex & Marie-Čve

PHEve Aug 17, 2004 10:34 AM

I have a little brownish yellowy girl too, they are real cute.

If you are seeing the black dots on both sides of vent, and no row of large scales, than SARA's name is appropriate, and you can be 100 percent sure.


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Eve

jeune18 Aug 17, 2004 12:48 PM

yes well i don't think that the vent lies but maybe the pictures do! sara does seem like a good name for her. just thought i would ask
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vonnie
***One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne***

halsbandleguaan Aug 17, 2004 09:45 AM

Hello,

As far I can see, she is a mix of Cr. bisinctorus with a Cr. collaris collaris.
She have the color and patern of the bisinctorus but her body looks more to a collaris.
A few years ago I also had some mixed collareds.
The females where extreem big when they where addult.

Peter
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Peter Bloemberg
(The Dutchman)
Dutch collaris site

xelabou Aug 17, 2004 01:15 PM

I wanted you to identify her for a specific reason : I want to buy her a male mate.

Is the best choice a collaris Aquaflame or a bicintores ?
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Alex & Marie-Čve

chris_mcmartin Aug 17, 2004 08:27 PM

>>I wanted you to identify her for a specific reason : I want to buy her a male mate.
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>>Is the best choice a collaris Aquaflame or a bicintores ?

For the purists out there, you should not get any male until you have a positive ID so you don't create "mutts."

If it were me, I'd lean more towards collaris, but probably not an aquaflame--she looks more like a female "green" collaris to me.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

jeune18 Aug 18, 2004 12:23 AM

so now i am really confused. i thought that the aquaflames were part of the regular collaris group but it was just a way to describe the coloring? i am not really good with taxonomy so i would like to know a little more about it. i know will wells has the page with different pictures of the different groups but is there a webpage that actually has like the little tree and branches to show the different types of collared lizards? i know alot of it is debatable, as i have seen you all talk about it before. (something to do with the yellowheads)
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vonnie
***One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne***

chris_mcmartin Aug 18, 2004 05:47 PM

is there a webpage that actually has like the little tree and branches to show the different types of collared lizards? i know alot of it is debatable, as i have seen you all talk about it before.

http://www.ultimanet.com/~davido/crotaphytus/slideshow.html

I think the tree is adapted from McGuire's.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

jeune18 Aug 18, 2004 07:33 PM

:D
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vonnie
***One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne***

halsbandleguaan Aug 18, 2004 03:21 PM

Because bisinctorus mix also get big and les egs (not like the collaris species) I think to thake a bisinctorus male is the best.
Somethimes the mixes have in a cuttle big and small egs.
The small egs mostly don't come out.
Thats the result of the mixed combination.
So (i think) whit a bisinctorus male the hatchlings from it produce better egs again.

I hope you can follow it(because i'm Dutch)
Greeting Peter
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Peter Bloemberg
(The Dutchman)
Dutch collaris site

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