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Clear belly? Yellow Belly? I don't get it

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 12:53 AM

Can someone please tell me what a clear belly or a yellow belly or whatever you call it is. Is this just a bp with a clear belly or is it a het. for something? I just do not understand this. This snake to me appears to have a pretty clear belly...some ball pythons just do I thought. please answer because the snake bit me when I took out the camera to try and figure out what this deal is.

Replies (23)

bachman Aug 17, 2004 01:12 AM

Thanks for posting another pic of a normal Ball python belly, we needed it...LOL.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 01:14 AM

actually it was a pastel belly...lol. But it was clear none the less.

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 01:17 AM

I did not mean is this particular snake in the photo het for something...I ment is the yellow belly or clear belly or whatever supposed to be het for something or is everyone just likeing this kind of a belly in a snake (I would doubt that)...I just want someone to explain this.

bachman Aug 17, 2004 01:19 AM

Its been explained a million of times already, just read hear once every couple of weeks.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 01:24 AM

Hey man...I looked a little and didnt see anything...this forum moves fast and I do not like to page through especially when people dedicate an entire page to setting up a phone call and talking about hots without ever really saying anything. Not that I care so you didnt have to snap on that either. I just thought it was funny so i thought i would comment. Sorry if i missed what a yellow belly is but i never cared until now either...i just saw the below thread and it wasnt explained...but i figured this late at night most people have little better to do if they are on ks reading the few posts that are new.

bachman Aug 17, 2004 01:32 AM

You have been here, and know about the yellowbellies, and I would be amazed if anybody is foolish enough to go thru the trouble of explaining it all to you...LOL.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

bachman Aug 17, 2004 01:34 AM

I have nothing to hide so here is my name....No initials this time!!!
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Chad Bachman

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 01:40 AM

I was just asking because I know a Charles Bachman from way back who could have very well gotten into a lot of venomous snakes...just thought I would ask since you are CB and into venomous...why are people so touchy on the KS at night.

bachman Aug 17, 2004 01:53 AM

Not touchy at all, I'm actually a nice guy. I try to help people as much as possible, but sometimes that is "impossible". I do stand up for what I believe in and that is why I try to stay off the forums, (nothing but BS) but 12 Lagers will bring you back quick...LOL. Look at the belly pic below and you will know what a yellowbelly is (I think it was dumje who posted it).

Relax man, it's just a forum.
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Chad Bachman

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 01:58 AM

i saw it...but is that it...thats all it does. Its a normal with a goofy belly and some slightly blushed sides? I just figured with everyone always asking about it it was carrying some trait for lucy or something. Sorry...I guess i just thought there was more to it or it would not be posted every now and then. I thought i missed something but i guess not.

bachman Aug 17, 2004 02:18 AM

It produces an ivory Ball in the super form (at least in two lines).

Why must people argue with me?????LOL..Back to no posting I guess, you be the expert....
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Chad Bachman

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 02:21 AM

Thats all i wanted to hear. I missed that part and all i did was ask a question...i didnt argue about it one bit...i just asked over and over and finally after tons of posts explaining myself...I got an answer. It produced an ivory ball...how hard was that? not to sound to sarcastic because I am actually thankful you gave me an answer to my question.

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 01:37 AM

I tried to page back a few pages but i never found the answer to what the deal is..i talked to a friend of mine who has much bigger ball python collection than i do and he didnt really get it either. If nobody wants to make a quci explanation thats fine..just was curious. Something about checkers is all i got and if the belly is yellow it isnt a yellow belly. whatever.

bachman Aug 17, 2004 01:17 AM

Pic was blurry, so who knows.
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CB

"I'm a truckin bassmole, and proud of it"

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 01:19 AM

the pic should not matter...what does clear or yellow belly mean..whats the hype?

corsimorphs Aug 17, 2004 12:10 PM

Chad, Why are you such a Tool?? I have waited a while to ask that but this last thread did it for me!!

Why do you always jump on people especially newbies that ask the same old questions? I know it is annoying but a "look at some old threads to find your answer" would suffice. Instead of the rude comments and the snappy attitude..

Just my thoughts!
Angelo Corsi

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 12:49 PM

Well I want to say thank you for taking my side on that...but now I kind of feel like a dork with the anoying newbie question. I guess I am a newbie lol when compared to the multi million dollar collections in here. None the less I agree that I should have known since I was here like chad said...but I missed it and I saw nothing in the 2 pages I looked though that said they produced an ivory ball...my ignorance I guess. But still it would have been easy to say "Ivory Ball" and end the post instead of the 2 hours last night of junk. I asked a friend of mine with hundreds of ball pythons and he really didn't know either so I figured I would ask since it seemed to be a big thing on here I never catched. But I can give you scale counts for E. murinus, E. beniensis, E. deschauenseii, and E. notaeus...so since Chad Bachman is always bragging about how he is the venom guy and ball pythons are weak...can you do that? Mark Petros had a yellow anaconda eat a ball python and I got an anaconda going on its first meals with snakes...maybe we can make a shirt too LOL.

jessikaowl Aug 17, 2004 12:55 PM

kingsnake is known for ripping newbies apart..... makes many stay away or be afraid to ask questions! oh well, it's still a good site for info and people!

eunectes4 Aug 17, 2004 01:26 PM

Its funny...I consider BHB, Morph King, NERD, and so on as not newbies...most others are newbies on here. This would include Bachman. I have been asked about new stuff like the new proven mojave to lesser thing. I was told by a friend when it came about and I had friends ask me when they heard. Just because I gave them an answer to a question about something new in the market does not mean they are newbie morons. This forum is one of the worst at it. Spur sexing green anacondas has been explained over and over and over in the anaconda forum and each time it is usually a different person to explain it and more people learn. Kelly Haller will still show pictures almost every time the threads come in and he is the one that explained it to me. Just a more professional attitude in there I guess. And trust me...that forum has some very well respected people in it like Renee Owens (co researcher in the Rivas study) and it has some IQ's probably under 100. But everyone learns and maintains respect. I wonder what the difference is.

bachman Aug 18, 2004 12:48 AM

Seems you know me real well, newbie huh?? Newbie what?
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Chad Bachman

eunectes4 Aug 18, 2004 05:06 PM

To Bp breeding and high end morphs. I could be wrong but have you been breeding bps as long as BHB, Nerd, RDR, etc? Its not a knock at you or anything. Its just that most people even with big collections and quite a few morphs are nothing compared to a lot here.

bachman Aug 18, 2004 06:50 PM

Been keeping snakes for 25 years, so no not a newbie. I only recently got into Balls, and only got 35, so I guess that makes me a newbie. You can also keep Balls, and breed them, even if you don't know crap about snakes, you just need the $$ to get started (I don't have $70,000.00 to make me an expert non newbie, so I guess I'll always be a newbie LOL).
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Chad Bachman

eunectes4 Aug 18, 2004 09:04 PM

that was my whole point. Not newbie to snakes. A newbie to ball pythons and this morph thing. I would not ask a newbie question like the lack of a row of scales below the suboculars in Eunectes benienis and Eunectes deschauenseii as compared to murinus. I would not ask about scale counts in Cook's tree boas as compared to other Corallus. I would not ask about Duvernoy's glands and venom in colubrids. But I would ask a newbie question about yellow belly's...because we are newbies and it can be hard to keep up sometimes. Some people might not know some cobras give live birth and not "every" cobra lays eggs. Many of these things are newbie snake things...yellow belly's and the mojave to lesser thing would be a newbie ball python morph question...get it. We had to ask someone once.

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