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Hello,

I just received my first vision cage, a 211, and I have a question about the gap between the doors. Is there any recommendation as to how large a snake should be before using this cage? I purchased it for a yearling copperhead, but now I question whether I need to wait a year or so before trying to use it.

In home stores they sell adhesive-backed teflon strips (plumbing or bathroom fixture areas) that you can run the length of the doors to narrow the gap. This stuff can be removed easily when you want. Thing is, with a venomous snake, why risk it. Keep it in something smaller until the snake gets bigger. That's my advice. You wouldn't believe how a young snake that seems too big to squeeze through a 1/4" gap often can.
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Mark

Thanks Mark,

After much consideration, I was leaning in the direction of not using the cage for the copper. It's frustrating as I was told Vision was the (second) perfect cage for hots. I guess they mean hots at least 1" in diameter. I just can't take the risk. Ah well, just have to find something larger to keep in there... Back to hunting for a 24" Neodesha.

You can surely use the cage for the copperhead once the snake grows up some.

One thing about Visions - they have that lip around the door and on top of the upper door tracks where a snake can and will hide in. With a venemous snake you must make sure not to put your hand where a snake on the top lip might be able to strike it. I know copperheads are pretty mellow, but anyone would feel pretty stupid getting bitten because you didn't see the snake sitting up there. Obviously as the snake gets large, you'll be able to tell better if it is up there because it won't fit without hanging over in view.

I agree with you - Neodesha cages make it easy to access the cage and see everything going on at a glance. By the way, they are supposedly coming back - www.neodeshacages.com I think it is or something to that effect. I hope so.
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Mark