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I have two:

1) A couple years ago I had everything in pairs except for two animals at the time. I had a subadult male sav and an adult female bearded dragon that had just lost her mate. When her mate died she got very depressed and stopped eating for over a week. I was very worried she would die and was willing to try anything. Well, under my watchful eye I introduced her into the male sav's cage. They got along beautifully and she began to eat again. I can't explain it, it is what it is.

2) I have a young male beardie that is inbetween my kimberly and pilbara enclosures. He can see the pils. I have never seen him blacken out or puff up as a result of the site of them. They both check each other out but nobody seems to mind. The kimberly enclosure is a trough. For kicks and grins (the male beardie is just a tad smaller than the male and about the same size as the female) I placed him in the kimberly enclosure for a second (have no plans of keeping him with them). The male kimberly did not react (female was deep in her hide). However the male beardie flattened out completely and his throat blackened out and his mouth was wide open. The kimberly did not run at all, he just seemed inquisitive about what was going on. I then immediately placed the beardie back in his cage.

It is fun to see what will happen while being careful but I don't think I will be doing this again. Interesting though.

andrew

My sons beardie and my daughter's veiled chameleon don't seem to like each other, but our baby sav seems like he'd like to snack on them both.lol
One day when cleaning cages I put the beardie and chameleon next to each other, the beardie went to check it out and started head bobbing, the chameleon gaped and the beardie ran for cover and started waving like mad.

Scott
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

My first lizard was a bearded dragon. After a few weeks I decided I wanted to get another dragon to watch the interaction. When I first put the two in together, they went nose to nose and licked each other. Then the first beardie came up to the front of the enclosure and sat there looking at me, ignoring the new dragon, and began to wave, not at the new beardie, but at me! So I waved back, trying to mimic the beardie wave as best I could. She waved back. This went on for over an hour. I was astounded, and still am. She has not done that since that first night. Still do not know what that was supposed to mean, but it sure was surprising. Needless to say, I was hooked on lizards from that moment.

Leslie

You are quite lucky i must say. The tail waving in a beardie is known as circumdence (if i'm not mistaken), and it is a gesture to aplease the alfa male/ female. It means that it recognizes you as its superior, and it is its way to say "I mean no harm/ I'm not going to challenge you"

hi andrew,
reminds me of scenario I know of a few years ago; a friend of mine has V. albigularis CB hatchlings he hatched, and exposed them to some dead puff adders to see what they would do - they reacted just as adult V. albigularis do: rearing up on hind legs, arching neck like a attacking cobra, and hiss tremendously. This was written up by another person under under separate scenarios in 1995 I think?

This is example of innate or instinctual behaviors = not learned. This applies to your scenario too...glauerts goannas are natural predators of bearded dragons.

Another friend of mine, mike balsai told me of his V. panoptes and his next door cage-neighbor, a australian snake species (I don't remember which one), and how the V. panoptes would engage in hide and peek when the snake was looking at it from enclosure next door - it would hide when the snake was looking, and look back (= peek) to see if it was still looking, in the huff and puff we love about goannas everywhere... again, innate behavior.

There are a lot of things we can see thse animals do naturally, but are they natural behaviors? Innate? artificial? Learned? Its all fun though irregardless of what he/she/whomever calls it.

cheers,
mbayless

Something else that puzzles me, when I clean the snakes cages, the savs run and stay in their borrow. The albig will roam back and forth puffing up and hissing when I walk by with the shed skin, poop and other assorted mess I get out.

Scott
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

i had a deformed jcp baby that died this year. I stuck it in the kimberly cage to see if they would eat it or how they would react. They were absolutely horrified of it. I stuck it in the argus cage and he went nuts but wouldn't eat it. He just tossed it with his mouth across the enclosure. Goofy Monitors. Lol

andrew

What a sad way to treat a corps. Why dont you just burrow it and let it rest in peace? Wasnt it one of your pride & joy?

bearded dragons to my dwarf monitors. just wanted to let you know. they loved them.

andrew

All of my varanids did that too when I got full term hatchlings and alike, except my V. bengalensis nebulosus - which went for them with violent gusto - and it was horrifiying how the female soon vomited it up and the male ran over and ate it!! How can they be so smart, and yet so gross!

cheers,
mbayless

If you would again do some research, you would find, that, V.glauerti, and P.vitticeps, do not occur in the same region. They are totally seperate.

Again, If you do somemore research, you should understand, that bearded dragons, occupy a totally different habitat(niche), then Kimberly rock monitors. So for you to say they are, natural predators, is totally false and misleading. This information is in your books, read it.

Mark said;
glauerts goannas are natural predators of bearded dragons

I understand I am sorta picking on you, but you indeed pick on me. Over such things as, sentence structure and spelling. I will pick on you for false misleading information. You as a collector in this information, should at least pass along accurate information. Afterall, you only read it, and not see it. FR