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I have been watching my three beardies this morning and have noticed that one of their poo's has little white worms in it. I have made a vets apointment for tuesday but will they be ok till then? What is it that they have does anyone know? I didnt know if it was just common worms or anything worse.

That's not good. Your vet will probably give you some antibiotics to use. You can also use parazap once a week or so to keep the worms down.

make sure you take a sample to the vet. I have never heard of a dragon having worms show up visable to the naked eye. I may be way off base here, please someone correct me if I am wrong but the only worm I know of that you would see it with the naked eye is Strongyloides stercoralis (.15-.3mm). pinworm, ropundworm and hookworms are all 50-100um.
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Edited on August 22, 2004 at 23:29:26 by phwyvern.

The worms looked whiteish grey with a little black dot on the end and was about 3mm - 5 mm in length. I have never heard of anything like this before. Please try and help me. I bathed my beardies last night and all three had a poo and it was normal. Then this morning i found this on the substate. I dont know what to do. I have booked a vets appointment for tuesday night as thats the only time they have.

hi
if you look at this link and scrol down you see a picture dith it looked like that??
with that black dot?
byeeeee
http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/enterobius.html

O.K. That is at 100 X Magnification he will not see that in the feces. Another thing is that that site, which we also one we used for my Medical Parasitology Class, is for human parasites so the size of Ancylostoma, and Necator are going be different in beardies so Bennett don't change your chart. I have also dealt with roundworms before which are round and white/grey. I have also used Parazap to no significant decrease in parasitic load. The regimen that worked for me was Fenbenbendazole 50-100 PO rep in 2-3 wks. This means give your animal 50-100 mg per kilo of your animal and repeat in 2 weeks 3 times. Some of the dosages will vary depending on what worm is actually present. As far as B22 your vet probably gave you the wrong dosage. Good luck Gavin and here is a good website that has dosages www.anapsid.org/resources/rxdose.html#parasites

-Randy
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>>O.K. That is at 100 X Magnification he will not see that in the feces. Another thing is that that site, which we also one we used for my Medical Parasitology Class, is for human parasites so the size of Ancylostoma, and Necator are going be different in beardies so Bennett don't change your chart. I have also dealt with roundworms before which are round and white/grey. I have also used Parazap to no significant decrease in parasitic load. The regimen that worked for me was Fenbenbendazole 50-100 PO rep in 2-3 wks. This means give your animal 50-100 mg per kilo of your animal and repeat in 2 weeks 3 times. Some of the dosages will vary depending on what worm is actually present. As far as B22 your vet probably gave you the wrong dosage. Good luck Gavin and here is a good website that has dosages www.anapsid.org/resources/rxdose.html#parasites
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hi
i showed it him as example for the picture of the worm with the blackdots.
he discribe a grey/white with a blackdot
i know it whas a humanpinworm.
byee

BDs have some Strongyloides spp. that are more specific to them but like you said correct me if I am wrong. Any ways Bennett definitely impressed with your Helminth knowledge.
-Randy
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guess I need to update my parasite chart. Have you ever seen adult worms come out in a BDs poop?
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Edited on August 22, 2004 at 23:24:30 by phwyvern.

hi
when i just startert with beardies i lost vew of them becuase i got beardies with worms!!
i saw a vet take out the poop a 2 cm long worm out a babie beardie it whas very sad!
i got 6 babies and every 14 days one died.
and even after a first fecal exame that guy not saw it.
but the second time i been there they discovered a huge worm.
only poop on glas and then droplets water on it and you saw the worm.
they gave me panacure and then my beardie not eat any more i asked what must i force feed him??
then he not could help me he dint know hmmmm.
then i found out i could give babie parot food its food you give to a mawcaw when they just come out a egg.
there is in bacteria and other nice things and then i have saved that dragon.
one beardie from the 6 survived her name is sleepy.
i have now 22 babies and i already have giving them parazap
i know it also is in puppies a problem is i do like puppies i deworm then the first month.
byeeee
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Edited on August 22, 2004 at 23:23:53 by phwyvern.

Hey,
I've found pinworms in adult veiled chameleons. I treat them with Panacur. I do my own fecal checks regularly, but I've not seen any in my bearded dragons. I do know that they can actually get pinworms from crix. At least that's what I've been told by other VC breeders.
The only thing I've ever found in my bearded dragons stool is coccidia.(Knock on wood). And it's normal to have small amounts of those.
Cricket

hi
Hookworms average about 10 mm in length
read it in the link there more info about them
btw am a real fan of parazap.com
it kill nemotodes,tapeworms hook,round worms and more
make a tea and give it 7 days long then 7 days no tea and then 7 days tea again and you not have worms any more !

prefentif used is 5 days each month on a row.
byeee
http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/hookworms.html

>>Parazap is basically an old indian laxative.
If you look up the ingredients you will find that Indians used those same ingredients for worms and other parastites. It is considered a preventative and will not RID YOUR DRAGON OF parasites. It is kind of like drinking a cleansing drink. Maybe Holistic medicine can work but when there is no proof of it then it is hard to recommend it.
-Randy
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hi
it only wil kill worms.
i got hookworms 3 years ago and 1 year of panacure not helpt me much.
then after parazap all the hookworms where killed.
i been to vet and she could not find any thing under microshope.
now i already 2/3 years free of worms .

byeee

My mistake, I was looking at sizes and I looked at eggs not adults for round, hook and pins.
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Edited on August 22, 2004 at 23:24:13 by phwyvern.

Parazap is not 100% effective on tapeworms. It's good stuff, but you really need Droncit to eliminate those. If deworming is done incorrectly, parasites can actually build up a resistance to the medications.
Cricket

Hey Gavin,
Those little white worms are probably Roundworms or Pinworms. Those are the two most common worms that are seen in feces. I would suggest going to a good reptile vet and having a fecal done. He will probably prescribe a regimen of Panacur.

One thing I recommend is to do some research on Roundworms,Pinworms, and Strongyles once you get your prescription. Make sure that if you do treat that you follow through with all the treatments b/c as you know that if you don't finish the treatment the worms will come back in much higher numbers.

Another thing is that if there are just a few worms in their fecals and they are large and healthy then it may not be worth it to treat because dragons pick up many of these Helminths from their feeders so if you feed your dragon then it will eventually have some sort of parasites. The biggest worry is making sure that your dragons are keeping the parasites at acceptable numbers, Which is virtually impossible in my opinion on sand and pariculate substrates that are being sifted.

Good luck,
Randy
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