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Rare 2 headed dragon!!!! $10,000

I saw this auction on [bleep] today and I was shocked by the ethics and morals of this breeder. To sell an animal with a genetic flaw such as that is appauling to me. Then to top it off trying to get $10,000 from it. Even if it was sold (which I highly doubt) how could they guarantee that it would never be bred. If it's even capable of breeding. This is just my opinion but I am sure others will agree with me. Please check it out and feel free to leave a responce in the question and answer section of the auction listing. Maybe if enough people respond they will think twice about what they are doing.

Mike

Oddities like this will always draw a crowd and money. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they sell it, maybe not for 10,000 but a pretty high price non the less. I hope it ends up in a reptarium or zoo somewhere where they can take proper care of it and its special needs.

Sean
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Heart Mountain Herps

I agree, it saddens me deeply that someone would do that to a special needs dragon, it might end up as an oddity in a side show somewhere with improper care....beside the fact that they are selling it when it is still so tiny, 5 3/4 inches and 9 grams.....just makes matters even worse....
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Tracey
Tracey's Beardies
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"Whining is not only graceless, but can be dangerous.
It can alert a brute that a victim is in the neighborhood" ~Maya Angelou

I know it is in FL. It's in Fish & Game's guidlines. You can sell them though.
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Joel R

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Mike,

Two headed snakes sell for thousands too. It happens & from what I'm told, those "one of a kind" things do indeed sell! They are not sold as breeders but for private collections of the very wealthy & some what super superstitious. I don't know what would make a dragon any different than a snake?
When I saw what you are talking about a few days ago, I thought it was for $100,000. not 10. lol I would hope that if anyone was looking to buy this animal, they would wait a while. I don't think there has been any two headed dragons that have made it past a couple weeks.
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Joel R

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Joel is right. Most likely the two-headed dragon will not live long. The chances of survival even under ideal conditions are still fairly slim. Usually deformities like that include other internal problems.

Very true, the chances of it living more than a few months are next to nothing.

Mike

I am aware of 2 headed snakes and have seen 1 in person a few years ago. It was several years old and was apparently healthy and doing well. Dragons on the other don't seem to fair as well.

If a private collector were to buy the animal and take care of it that would be great. But, in my opinion the site at which they have it advertised is not the best outlet for finding a private collector or zoo.

I honestly think the animal is beautiful in it's uniqueness. But the size and weight paint a picture of a possibly unhealthy animal. I would hate to think that they sold the animal just to sell it without checking on how it would be living after the sale. The site on which they have it advertised offers no clear way to check. The highest bidder wins and after money changes hands the intentions of the purchaser are unknown. Maybe I am reading into but it disturbes me to see something like that.

Mike

I doubt someone would buy the poor lil guy so young( Im also hoping ), but they do sell oddities. In daytona a man was selling a 2 headed king snake for $65,000 and when i saw that price i was like woah. People actually pay that much just because it has 2 heads? The market these days disapoints me
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It's most likely Joe Shmoe who hatched it out & thinks they are going to get $100,000. for it. lol If it were a reputable breeder, they would have people coming out of the wood work, trying to get it & they wouldn't have to post it on that site.
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Joel R

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Joe Schmo ahah good 1
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I wasn't going to say anything, but after taking a look for myself, I just gotta put in my $.02.
I'd hate to see the people at that particular beardie ranch give birth to siamese twins. They'd probably try to sell off their own kid!
Darn it! What some people will do for a quick buck. I really hate to say it, but that little beardie would most likely be better off it someone put it down. Sure would be better than the poor life it's sure to live.
Cricket

I think you guys are being a little harsh on them. You say they would sell their own Siamese twins. The way you are talking, they could say that you would put yours down or out of their misery?

Let's be fair.
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Joel R

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Robert Wood
Tulsa,OK

>>Personally, I think it's really neat. I would love to have the little two headed guy! and a two headed snake as well. Granted I wouldn't make it live a life of suffering, but if it faired well, can you imagine the buisness two headed animals would draw to a pet store? Plus it would arouse interest in dragons and maybe people would tend to learn a little more about them and better dragon care would result with the wider spread of info on the species through the attention that guy would draw.....
There are many angles that you could use this guy for why should we only think of the negative ones?
And why is it a bad thing for the guy to sell a dragon that he hatched and make some good cash? Noone thinks of the dragons that end up being wholesaled out of which usually only 15% survive from improper care, cross contamination,etc. However, they still keep doing it.
I think the person selling it has every right to do so but I do agree they should keep it a little longer to make sure it will thrive before attaching such a high price tag. Just my opinion.
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Robert Wood
Tulsa,OK

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are you kidding? The last thing that would help the bearded dragon hobby is a novelty that would induce impulse purchases. I'm sure people would try to breed two headed dragons if they thought they could get $10,000 apiece for them, and there's already enough people inbreeding dragons to try to get specific traits.

I'm sorry to be negative, but it's just not a good idea. if they're going to sell it, sell it for a reasonable price.

I say go for it. If they can get that money for it, all the power to them. If someone doesn't want to spend that much for it, then don't! It's called demand & supply. If someone wants it & they have the money, then they will buy it. Plain & simple. Just because someone else doesn't want it, doesn't make it a bad thing.

If this thing just happen to pop out, how can this be framed with inbreeding, etc.??? Just because someone buys it, does not mean they will breed it.

Not one person here has any facts about the circumstances of this animal, yet everyone has their .02 and harsh statements for the person selling it. Who knows, maybe it will be healthy as a horse?
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Joel R

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n/p
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Joel R

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I still think it's sad....a normal hatchling is fragile at that size, let alone one with a genetic defect like that....I'm not against anyone making money for something rare, but I don't sell my "normal" hatchlings at that size do you? And I certainly try to screen my purchasers, especially for any dragon with problems like rescues etc.....you can't do that with an auction......
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Tracey
Tracey's Beardies
www.beardiecrazy.com
"Whining is not only graceless, but can be dangerous.
It can alert a brute that a victim is in the neighborhood" ~Maya Angelou

Amen. Tracey. Amen.
It saddens me to even think of what "might" happen to the beardie. Who knows? Maybe it will end up with someone that is actually willing to take the time & effort to meet his needs. We can only hope.
Cricket

That was my first point...... I said it may not make it & I'd wait untill it was well on it's way.
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Joel R

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sure I read them, but was just responding to your comment regarding others saying things about an animal that could be well and healthy, just was saying that at that size it's way too early to tell that and the dragon shouldn't be sold yet....that's all..
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Tracey
Tracey's Beardies
www.beardiecrazy.com
"Whining is not only graceless, but can be dangerous.
It can alert a brute that a victim is in the neighborhood" ~Maya Angelou

We do agree on that then. I would bet that they are trying to sell it asap before it passes on. Which is greed.
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Joel R

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n/p
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Tracey
Tracey's Beardies
www.beardiecrazy.com
"Whining is not only graceless, but can be dangerous.
It can alert a brute that a victim is in the neighborhood" ~Maya Angelou