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This little thin banded hypo just hatched out while I was at work today. Randy W.

good looking animal!

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Where did you get the parents? What are the parents and what do they look like? Are they normal hypo siblings? Is 1/4 of your clutch like this?
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Hey Robert,
I dont know where the parents actually came from. I got them from someone who got them from someone, you know the kind of deal. I dont usually ever by any of my stock that way but the parents were such screamers as hatchlings that I could not pass.
The parents are actually both hets and are screamer tangerine hondurans as adults. All of my females in this group usually have 1 or 2 unusually light, thin banded and sometimes with vanishing pattern hypo babies each year. The other hypos are nice but not quite as nice. This is the mother of the baby hypo in the picture above. Later, Randy Whittington

Many Hypos out there don't even look half as good as this Het.

Your Hypos speak for themselves Randy!

Thanks a lot Marc!

Im not trying to make waves but.,...;..extrems have olive bands and are bright orange.Lots of extrems out there that arent.I will post pics of babies after they shed.Hey shannon your tri color kicks ass.

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around 20 days.My eggs have taken loger than ever.82 to 83 days on my extrems.Talk about sweating.................
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Hi Michael,

When I look at your full body photo of a mature extreme, I know what I am looking at, a true extreme. When I look at Randy's photo of his baby, it looks extreme. That's why I asked about the parentage. I do see the slight difference in the color on the head. I also see the difference in the width of the bands.

While I still think Randy's animal is an extreme, I would like to know the ultimate origin of the parents.

According to Shannon, we do not know whether extreme is a single morph (a single gene) or more than one gene. As time goes by, and extremes are bred to albinos to obtain extreme hybinos, and as more crossing takes place, we will possibly lose track of the extreme morph's origin. If there are multiple origins, we will not be able to nail it down with ease.

Sadly is to breed them out to what are PURE normals.But I would bet that those(like PURE unrelated brooksi)are beginning harder to come by.And of course by producing KNOWN hets(or dbl hets)and recrossing--that is ALOT of work to take on as a project for those intent on making a QUICK BUCK,dont you think?I suggest that the bigger breeders DONT WANT TO DO THE WORK because by producing more visible morphs FASTER they make more $$......Hey,this is a assumption I want to be wrong with,kind of a challenge for those lucky enough to be working with these in the first place,lol. Anytime you work with a new morph I think it EQUALLY important to outcross as much as inbreed--and thats when I KNOW what the genes are.Even more so with UNKNOWN morphs.By producing them and spamming em out without knowing the full extent of the genetics will cost em in the long run as they will lose "control"of the multi-genes much faster than they would have.But hey,you cant keep everything.Just my opinion,J

ok ok ok ok take foot out of mouth.Yeah it does look like an extrem.Little dark on the head but its an extrem.Very nice id keep that one.Im still waiting to see what happens when these extrem X tri color hypo eggs hatch.Anyone placing bets?I hope they all come out normal.But..........word on the street says they will come out all hypo.The good thing is I get first pick on the babies since mine was the stud.hahaha anyway take care everyone..................
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HI,
On kevin hanleys site, he has a clutch that was from his extreme hypo male x a hypo female-(pics of all the babys), and some of them look extreme to me. I think that extremes are the best that hypo hondos can get, they are at the top of the hypo gene. Anyways, it will be interesting to see what happens, but if hanley bred an extreme hypo x regular tang.hypo and got all hypos, then I'd bet alot on the extreme hypo x tri-color hypo produces all hypo babys-(maybe some might be extremes...?), I cant wait to see what happens with it though, but whatever it is, they are some of the best looking hypos around.
Jeff Teel

I cant find the pics. . .mind posting a link for me please?

Thanks. . .I can be blind at times

peace,
Ian Daviss