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Salmons & Super Salmons

Gatorgal Aug 25, 2004 12:24 AM

I'm hoping someone can clear this up for me...

I have seen ads that mention 'possible super salmons'. My question is, how can they be 'possible' supers? Isn't it a salmon or a super salmon?

Assuming a salmon is a hypo, then a super salmon would be a hypo X hypo. So, how do you tell them apart? If they can be distinguished from one another then why do ppl list some as 'possible' supers?

Pictures showing differences would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Replies (5)

Zoo_Dad Aug 25, 2004 12:50 AM

Who better to answer this than the men responsible for Salmon Boas...Rich Ihle at SalmonBoa.com, G.W. Schuett, and K.A. Hughes. The following link is a 3273 KB publicly accessible-(i.e. Google) PDF download that should clear up any confusion you may have regarding this issue. HTH!
Journal Heredity May '00

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tcdrover Aug 25, 2004 06:58 AM

In the first paragraph of the attached paper is the following sentence:

'Boa constrictors expressing the Sa pigmentation pattern appear to be restricted to regions of Panama.'

Don't Cloaded Boas comes from an island right off the coast of Panama?

I may be wrong here and if I am please be polite about it, but isn't it possible that a Super Salmon is simply the result of breeding Boas that were 1/4 or 1/2 Sabogea until a full 100% Sabogea is obtained?

Have any genetic studies been done on Sabogea compared to 'Super' salmons?

Thanks,
tc

Randall_Turner Aug 25, 2004 01:26 PM

I personally would like to see a sabogae (sp?) bred to a common bci (for more proof to the possibility that it could be where it resulted from) If half of the litter appeared to be salmon then it would fuel the arguement that it is a possibility to where the salmon or hypo gene originated from. If they looked like a simple cross then it would shut down that possibility immediately imo.
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Randall L Turner Jr.
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shawn boorman Aug 25, 2004 08:09 AM

Hopefully I can help clear up some confusion. If you breed a hypo to a normal, approximately half the litter should be hypo and the other half normal. So if you breed hypo to hypo most but not always all the babies will be hypo, some may be normal. The super happens when the hypo gene from the mother and the father wind up in the same baby, giving it a double dose per say.
So to answer your question about how to tell a regular hypo from a super; the only way is to prove it out by breeding. A super bred to a normal will produce all hypos. Hope this helps.

bcijoe Aug 25, 2004 09:26 AM

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