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New Anaconda Owner Intro

tcjrvp Aug 25, 2004 08:46 AM

I am new to snake-keeping (bought my first, a Halloween Tree Boa about a month ago) and got hooked unbeleivably quickly. I have a very reputable reptile shop in my area (New Hampshire) and had been eyeing a male yellow anaconda that they had for a while. I initially thought it insane to own the "dreaded" anaconda as a pet! After doing a ton of research and following this forum, I bought the snake. I cannot tell you how much I love this snake. The shop owner told me from the first time that I held it that it would bite, no doubt about it. I have handled this snake several times every day since buying it last week, and he has not even one time attempted to bite. He is a big, gentle baby.

I was concerned about buying this snake with so little experience, but feel completely at ease. I understand that they get even more docile with proper handling and age - am I correct?

Also, can a keep two yellows in the same cage without a problem. How about a yellow and green together?

I am so happy to have found this forum. I will, no doubt, be expanding my anaconda collection. Can anyone give me an opinion on keeping greens without having a lot more experience? I understand that greens are much more agreessive in general, but from this forum, it seems this impression is wrong.

One more thing - can anyone direct me to a good breeder source for yellows?

Thanks for everyones help.

Replies (8)

eunectes4 Aug 25, 2004 01:46 PM

I am happy to hear you got a yellow but start learning fast and stick to the forum. I would not house anything with an anaconda (especially one you dont know well) as I have mentioned over and over in this forum that my green started its first meals on garter snakes and Mark Petros had a cage cleaning go a little wrong when a yellow got in the wrong place and ate a ball python. I am sure Mark and I are not the only ones to witness this. Just because your snake is docile now..you NEED to be on your toes especially if the snake is kind of large. I have noticed yellows to have more of a quick change in temper but for the most part it is different from snake to snake. I must say, starting with amazon tree boa and yellow anaconda is a wild choice. Good thing your yellow is calm because I have the most docile amazon I have ever seen and she was biting at my face the whole time I had her out last. At least she does not do the stare at a vein and bite thing like all the others I have seen lol. You also want to leave them alone when you intorduce a food item into the room...DFR and myself have yellows who have some scary feeding responses and hands do not want to be confused...good luck!

tcjrvp Aug 25, 2004 01:56 PM

On the feeding response, I appreciate the information. What I have been doing is waiting until he is in his hidebox. I then dangle the fuzzy over the opening using the tongs. He cannot even see my hand so I figure he will never associate the hand to the food item. Does this sound reasonable?

CrazyCodyKadunk Aug 25, 2004 02:02 PM

my yellow male is a crazy feeder eats every thing i just drop the fuzzy in and he eats it up. his temper can be worked on. like gavin said they have fast personalitys one day he is super nice and today he the devil. a cage for an adult male yellow i would use a bigger. dont mix snakes nothing good ever comes out of it. i would not handle the snake the first week u get it. the snake needs to settle in first. i think thats about it i think. also always feed f/t.

CrazyCody aka the master of conda keeping

MR_ANACONDA28 Aug 27, 2004 12:12 AM

Master....Sheit! lmao
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GOD,I LOVE ANACONDAS!!!!! Eric aka Mr.A

tcjrvp Aug 25, 2004 02:00 PM

I forgot to mention, my tree boa is also pretty calm, relatively speaking at least. Many times, he doesn't even give me a warning bluff. I can usually come up from underneath him and he is fine. You are right though, in general, they are nippy little suckers! Luckily they are small.

dfr Aug 25, 2004 02:16 PM

` Anacondas are definitely individuals, in temperament. Their behavior, and its changes, vary widely from snake to snake. I've found this to be true in all Boids. My experience is that if you respect the individual highly, and try to intuitively respond to its moment to moment changes in behavior, and mood, you will have the best results. Watch for short term stress by constantly watching its breathing rate. You can watch its large lung action by looking 1/3 of the way down its body, from the head. When calm, their breaths are deep and slow, with a long pause between breaths. It's not abnormal for the animal's respiration to increase at the beginning of handling. Also, when working out the snake will breathe more rapidly, but still deeply. Quick, shallow breaths usually mean stress.
` Feeding pre-killed food is one of the most important keys to successfully maintaining a "pet grade" Boid, in my opinion.
` Don't count on a tame individual remaining so, even though it is likely. I've seen very tame Boids become aggressive because their handlers ( even temporary handlers ) got too sure of the snake's behavior, and became inconsiderate with them. They are simple critters, and can be offended easily. They have some latitude in behavior, but if you push them, insult them, or frighten them, even the most tame can fall back on instinctive behavior. It one falls back on flight or fight ( because you accidentally pushed it there ), you're not likely to let it run away, and the snake may become defensive, then if that doesn't work, offense is usually next. Never grip any snake too firmly, and when it wants to back up, always let it. Use your hands like a hook, or platform, but don't grip them so firmly that they can't slither through your grip. Their ribs crack very easily, and they are very sensitive to this. Once you crack a rib, even slightly, each breath becomes a pain, it's the same for them. They have hundreds of ribs, and they are quite delicate, even in the big animals. Like perching a bird, but substituting the chin, for the foot, put your hand under their chin, let them feel the support, and they'll "step" up to that perch.
` If you need to dangle food to induce a strike to get them to feed, so be it; however, if you can just lay the food down, and get them to come and eat it calmly, you've got a good thing going. That is much better is what you want is a " pet grade " snake.
` Greens are like Yellows, behavior is variable, from individual to individual.
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` Housing them together is VERY, VERY risky, for the animals. My experience is that each snake's history should be known, back to birth, then two ( 2 ) YEARS of individual observation/quarantine for health, and to determine suitable temperament for community housing. After you done all that, forget it anyway. I've seen so many folks kill their snakes with improper husbandry, then just go out and buy another to experiment on. I got out of retail herps, before I strangled someone too stubborn to listen.
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Justin Stricklin Aug 25, 2004 06:48 PM

I have been wanting to see that. I remember somone saying they were going to post a pic of the conda just opening the mouth for the food but I could not remember who it was. That is pretty cool. It shows that they have a little bit of inteligiance.
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Justin

dfr Aug 25, 2004 08:01 PM

` I just hope these pix don't encourage anyone to try this with an adult constrictor which hansn't learned to eat without striking, as a baby. Even then, precautions should be in place!
` People are always receiving Darwin Awards, pothumously !
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