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I know that the Jungle trait has been proven Co-Dominant. But, really...........How do you tell with the babies what is???....And, what isn't??? I know you can tell by saddles and their shape....But, I have seen some babies...And, I'm just not seeing a Jungle. Is it only me?? And really how can you sell the babies with 100% assurance in the genetics?

Don't get me wrong...I LOVE Jungles!!! Especially the Supers...But, how can you really tell and be sure that you are buying a 2000.00 Jungle for real. Or, not an abberant boa. (My example assums that the parents are a Jungle and a normal boa>
Thanks,
John
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."

I'm begining to think it's something I call a dominant,variable expressive trait. (I have no idea if that's even a valid genetic term! I'm certainly not a genetics expert,it's just a theory)I believe there is a possibility that these so-called "normals",are in fact,"lesser expressives",and,may actually carry,and,pass the trait.this is what led to the mis-identification of this trait originally,as a "simple recessive", animals from the original line,thought to be "normals"were bred,(whether to each other,or,to unrelated normals,I don't know.)and,some "Jungles" were produced(no idea what ratio,or,numbers)the automatic assumption: the adults must have been "hets",and,the mutation is recessive! in actuality these animals were lesser expressive gene carriers for a dominant mutation with a previously unseen degree of variability?...I certainly could be wrong,and,I know it doesn't help with your original question,as to how one knows for sure it's what it's supposed to be...I would ask questions,and,ask to see the adult(s)that produced them? there will,no doubt,be those that wish to "jump on the jungle bandwagon",and,simply trying to sell unproven aberrant boas???

so do you mean by dominant, that jungle x normal would
yeild all jungles of various influance?
That's a very interesting theory!

Excellent thoerem. Actually very intriguing. OR, a well known rarely expressed trait is sexdactylism, or having six digits per appendage. THis trait is actually DOMINANT over the pentdactylic appendage arrangment we are used to. That's right, we should have 6 fingers and toes per hand or foot (respectively) since the trait is a simple recessive one where the gene for 6 digits is dominant it is SOOOOOOOO RARE it is SELDOM expressed?!? What if this were true w/ the JUngle trait? It is seldom seen but when it is it is dominant/co-dominant? Years of careful Mendelian like observation and record keeping will stay the course and lead us to the answer. I like your ideas.
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Did you see the jungles in the classifieds too?
They are nice, and the female shows some 'jungle' but I just
didn't see it in the male..
Is the jungle morph detailed in any depth anywhere on the web?
I can't seem to find much, I know I know, search the forum
archives. I will, but I'm at work now so it'll have to wait.
When a 'jungle' is bred to a normal what are the ratios?
These 'slight-jungle-influanced' boas look so similar to the
normals sometimes it can get so confusing. Perhaps not a lot
is know yet? Are people who breed junlges keeping back the
entire litters to prove out the genetics? If not, I wish
someone would! lol!
KS's jungle page