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If you had a budget of 10-12K what would you spend it on?

I was thinking a male pied, with 3, or 4 hets
Or
Spider-norms (If the price don't crash under 5K in 2 years, the most money back)
Or
Pastel - w/5 female pastel for supers
Or
Two albinos, 10 hets?
Or
Other (what???)

Or any combo from above?
Thanks!
John

Either a het. Genetic stripe pair if you could find one or a double het snow pair. If not i'd get either a cheap yellow belly if you could find one (Make sure its a true yellow belly)or a cinnamon pastel. The super is awesome and pweters are sweet too.

Thats only me though. On your list I would do pieds. Spiders are cool also and pastels I'd pass on.
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1. ball python
.2 anery kenayan sand boas
1. childrens python
1.1 adult leopard geckos
1. hybrid milksnake
.1 bearded dragon
1.1 red ear sliders
.1 blue tounge skink

Coastal Herps

In my opinion specializing in any one of the lower priced morphs is not a good thing. what i am doing is i purchased one pair het albino's, 2 het pied males and will be buying several 66% females in the next couple of months. I am also looking at some nice yellow ghosts to mix with a pastel male my friend owns. next year i will be getting either a pair of het clowns or a male clown to mix with the albino and ghost blood lines. with all the major breeders having tons of breeding stock of albinos, pieds, ghosts, pastels, not crossing the morphs in the next few yrs could leave you hanging with surplus animals that could be at pet trade prices. but since i'm not looking to get rich off of my animals it doesn't matter to me, i just would like for them to pay for themselves.
Just my opinion.
Josh Hutto
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a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrior as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

What I was really thinking of doing is to get the spider, then breed it to 5 norms, to produce maybe 6-7 spiders, sell them for 7K, that is 49K then get 10 albino females, and a pied male, to produce spider 100% het albino, 100% DH albino pied, and maybe get a few het for pieds, to complete the package, and finish up the money, and should give me a good base to work off of! So, maybe I will go with a spider male?

Except that Spider males are selling for that or near that now. I would get a male Mojave if I were you. At least make some discreet inquiries. You might not have to have $20,000 to $30,000 to buy one, that may just the asking price. I think Spider is still a great investment, Mojave is even better, and the simple recessives are always great. Heck, albinos are still selling for $2500 ! That's incredible if you think about it. Also remember that a lot of peoples visuals are used in dbl het projects so there is a shortage of visual morphs sometimes, and that helps keep the price up. Stay away from the Snow projects as there are many better white snakes out there. Any of your combos would be good - it's hard to go wrong buying ANY Ball python morphs !
Paul Edwards

I agree. Plus, since it can take a female twice as long to be ready to breed as a male, I invested in a pied female from Cypress Creek last year and I'll be getting a 100% het male from Ralph Davis this year - my hope is to breed them both in the 06 season.
In the meantime, I have a male and female normal who are ready to breed this season and hopefully they will give me the "practice" I need before the pieds are ready. (fingers crossed!)

I also agree on the dog statement. Dangerous dogs are made by humans. Pit Bulls make wonderful pets for families; I worked at the local animal shelter and it's sad when a beautiful Pit Bull's life has to be cut drastically short because some idiot trained it to be mean and no one could get near it. Not cool.
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...got balls?

graycat

Letting me live here:
2.2 normals
0.1 pie ball
1.0 hetpied
0.1 Suriname
? Common snapping turtle
? Alligator snapping turtle
1 Guinea pig
2 gold fish (turtle survivors)
3 pet rats and
3 cats
Oh yeah, and 3 children!

One don't you consider getting a male and female of different co-dom (or dominant) morphs?

For example, get a pastel male and a female cinnamon pastel ... or a pastel male and a spider female.

That way after your first breeding, you'll have normals, animals showing either the father or mother's trait and hopefully a few crosses. Plus, as a side project, breed the male to all of your available females and maybe use him as a sire for others.

I'm not up to speed any more on the prices of doms and codoms, but I'm sure with your budget you can get a male and female of different morphs.

Joel
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2.5.1 Leopard Geckos
0.1 Ball Python
0.1 Okeetee Corn Snake
1.0 Blair's Phase Gray Banded Kingsnake
0.0.2 Crested Geckos

Genetic Stripes are the way to go. Think of the crosses people will be making. How about this a Super Pastel Genetic Stripe. Good luck,
Hillary and Jason
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J & H Reptiles
www.jhreptiles.homestead.com

I would invest in mass numbers of snakes... as Ralph always says its about selling numbers of snakes... if you sold 1 snake for $15,000 then that would be good but even if that snake drops to $1,000 and you sell 30 of them thats $30,000 alot of people will be able to afford $1,000 snakes rather than the $15,000... I would most def go with a 2 Albino male to a 8-12 albino female ratio... if you email some breeders (small and large scale) ask about buying a clutch of albinos... try to get a quanity price on them...

Mass is the key word... if you produce alot of something that alot of people can afford you'll have a easier time selling it rather then selling a item that only a small handful of people can afford... Of course having a 10k snake sure would put a smile on my face !
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Joe Nimeskern Jr
GGexotics(@hotmail.com)

The reason why I want to start so strong, is because I want to make enough money to get into the less expensive breeds (sounds stupid, but...) I want to eventually breed in quantity, and to do so, I need a good amount of money to get the large amount of albinos, pieds(starting there slip into low price morphs), and other lower dollar morphs. Sounds odd on paper, but makes sense in my head lol

John

if i had 10-12k....i would buy a male albino and 2 female hets......then same but w ghosts....prolly an orange ghost.....and if u wanna go the cheap route get 1.2 vpi axanthics......then that way u got one morph that takes away black, another that takes away yellow/red and the ghost takes away a little of both...well just soften up the color but u prolly know wat i mean...hahha....then watever u go from there u can mix and do all the double morphs u want....just an option....