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It is my understanding you purchased the snake as a het for axanthic and there was noticed it was gwowing it was whiter than the yellow brooksi..

I popped out this white flecked brooksi for my NE axanthic line.
Will this turn into a high white brooksi?

Brandon can you post neonate pics of yours again?

I would definately hold onto it for awhile just to see how it looks. I doesn't look like the whites I produce, but you never know with brooksi these days. Here are a few pics of whites.

'03' hatchling

'02' hatchling

'02' yearling pic taken last fall.


'02' comparison taken this spring.


Original white female

Brandon Osborne

These black and white brooks are a type of Axanthic. I have some Axanthics that throw these and the blue ones. When you breed one of these black and white ones to the blue ones they produce all black and white. I really want to start working more with these black and white ones to get them cleaner looking as adults. Some of these are really nice.

Jeff

Jeff, those are some super looking kings. I don't think we have the same thing though. The whites I produce have the orange sides, and lose most of the color after 2 years or so. I have a 2 year old pair that will be ready next season, so I should see better results of how more offspring will turn out.

If I remember correctly, Walter Smith had some white axanthic floridana. You might want to contact him about how they looked as hatchlings.

Thanks for posting the pics.

Brandon

I am sorry. I was comparing them to Rainer's axanthic not your white brooks. These white axanthics that I have are from the same line that Walter had at one time.
thanks
Jeff

Sorry Jeff. I was in a hurry and didn't notice you had responded to Rainer. lol. Again, awesome looking snakes! Keep up the great work.

Brandon

I am familiar with walter smiths. I think are are from the Lemke line (?)Mine may not be an axanthic but if it is, it would be the first one I have seen from my New England line I have been working with for sevaral years.
Also Tim Ricks had some white looking axanthics and after a year I sold them because they lost their white appearance and turned kindy muddy.

I will have to look a little closer at that het and see if it is in fact an axanthic. Well see.

The axanthics Walter had were not from Lemke axanthics. They were from the same line of axanthic floridana that Brian Barczyk have. They do tend to muddy up after they reach adult size, looking more brown than anything. I'm pretty sure Gulf Coast has the same line of axanthics in their projects.

Brandon

Thats funny I have one of the BHB enterprises anerys. Its an adult female and I bred to my male Peanut Butter and the male Sulfer Lavender brooksi.

I got double hets from the anery to Peanut Butter breeding.

I bred that same female (double clutch) to my male Sulfer Lavender brooks. Two eggs pipped this morning and they are LAVENDERS.

So that lavender gene is floating around in the anery BHB (I wonder how that happned?). It also surprised me this year when I bred Sulfer Lavender to Sulfer Lavender and got 2 snows. They look different so I am wondering if the BHB anery is floating around in the Sulfer Lavender brooksi as well.

The funny thing is that when you breed the white ones to the other axanthics they produce axanthics. So they are some what compatible. If they were totally different then they would produce double hets.
thanks
JEff

axanthics.

Thanks for the info!

I have 1.5 Double Het for Snow breeders. I use the same male for all my females. From the breedings I produce both types of Axanthics and both types of snows. They are all compatible with each other. The white Axanthic phase tends to be more dominant.

Jeff

Here's the Snow they call Pearly.

Here's the Snow they call Glossy.

That was a very good example of the two.

I am going to take a pic of my BHB anery (I call it an anery because it looks so different and it is more floridana than brooksi)and post it here .

Also I checked that clutch from my BHB anery X Sulfer lavender and so far there is one lavender and two snows.

The whites I have were sold to me as normals, het for axanthic. Some have yellow and orange as hatchlings, but lose most of the color. Even the whitest of the white hatchling have a lot of orange and red on them.

Brandon