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extreme ik' strem adj. 1. very great or intense, not moderate.
2. very severe (as defined by Webster)

I personally what to set the highest standard and try to define what is label an "extreme Hypo Honduran Milksnake" to set some sort of prececent. Lets not let it become another "water down" term. Here are my parameters:
1. Normal black bands are blue/silver/gray and extremely light in color. Red and orange color invade the darker bands in different parts of the pattern.
2. Red/lighter color eyes. The eyes on the extremes are not black but red or lighter in color. Look at them in the sunlight and you can see the the lighter iris.
3. Red hot neon colors! Very clean, very extreme, zero black tipping. The glow in the dark look. Pumpkin orange, flesh tones, and very bright, vivid colors of reds & oranges. Some are a little softer with a "pastel look" but very clean and bright.
4. Pattern - Pattern of the extremes can run the whole gamut of typical hypo Honduran patterns. Not sure extremes can be classified by patterns. From typical patterns to pinstripes to vanishing...extremes take all forms and do not seems to be pattern specific.
Here is my example and I would not call anything less an "extreme". I have starting using the term "extremish" for animals approaching the criteria.
Have fun with it because it can be somewhat subjective!
PS Robert, this guy has a one way ticket to California and he will see you next week!
Good luck and God Bless the many Hodurensis fancier out there!
mike

I love the extremes with bands-I think the wider the black bands-(or where black would be on a normal) the better an extreme will look. Its that very neat flesh-grey color that makes me like them so much. Well thanks for posting the pic, and whoever robert is, your very lucky, as thats one nice looking hondo.
Jeff Teel

Mike,
Thanks for cleaning this all up.I think we are just seeing many good quality hypos and they are extreme"ish" like you said,
I love the pic you posted and roberts gotta be very happy about that one.

shannon

Congrats Robert? ....I'm jealous
jim

stare at the snake a while and you loose track of which is the inner and outer bands????????They are as close to the same shade as you can get and about the same width.

I can't wait to see hybinos and ghosts from this killer line,

shannon

Thanks Mike Falcon for popping out the most awesome snakes around,

Speechless n/p

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Oh my god. I cannot believe that I am to be the recipient of this unbelievable snake. Thank you Mike. I don't know what else to say.

Thank you for posting this wonderful photo, and thank you for sharing. Bless you.

robert
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Mike,it was my point when you first posted these NICE snakes a couple years ago that they were at LEAST lavender albino.At the time they were just considered hypos,now "extreme"hypos.With the further explanation seperating them into 3 different types--would they not fit this scenario:
1-HYPO
2-lavender albino
3-DUAL MORPH--THIS is the one you should get to name seeing that a lavender albino X hypo hasnt been named within colubrids yet I dont think.

Archems razor(sp?)-if 2 explanations are present the simplest is usually true(or something to that effect,lol).I just think that this second morph has popped up within one morph line and it is going to take several generations(or at least conversations,lol) for you hondo experts to revisit and amend this theory.The 2 lines just look ALOT alike and variation within individuals will make it more difficult to correctly ID alot of these.A good problem to have I suggest,Jeff