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long post, but need advice

jeune18 Aug 26, 2004 11:24 PM

so like i go without internet for one week and i have the worst lizard week ever!!!!!!!!!!
first off ivan was having a really hard time pooping then a piece of urate was stuck out of her vent. so i call and make a vet appointment and i soaked her as i had been since i saw her having trouble. so the next day i see this blobby thing in the cage and i picked it up to examine it and it was a deformed egg that broke in my hand!!! but ivan was still walking around with her tail arched in that pooping position so it was not the egg that was bothering her. then later on i find another egg that is half shelled and half just film. i put it in the incubator and it is still in there because i don't have the heart to throw them out till they mold.
so i take her to the vet and the vet was not really sure what was up with the eggs but she took x-rays and said if there were still eggs then they were not calcified but she also found a whole bunch of SAND in her stomach. i have never had sand problems before. anyway she is on an antibiotic and some laxitive/hairball type medicine. she is pooping fine now but i found yet another deformed egg in her "quarentine" cage on a paper towel.

has anyone ever seen them just randomly lay eggs and yellow small deformed eggs at that? could it because she reabsorbed eggs earlier this summer? i saw her and walter do it so i thought they would be good eggs. i wasn't sure but i also thought she had another week. could it be because we traveled?

also should i switch her back to the finer grained sand. i used to use the stuff from the pet stores and she never had this problem. i just don't want it to happen again. she was on stuff from the home depot.
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vonnie
***One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne***

Replies (8)

Collaredkeeper Aug 27, 2004 01:15 AM

The Home Depot Play sand shouldn't be a problem at her age. My suggestion is that if you put her back into the sand, just take her out when feeding her. Maybe put her in a plastic container with 3 crickets. It cuts down on all the sand they can eat. This is how I had to raise my babies, and am raising Raiden. My babies are hard to feed, I have to seperate them or they will bite each-other.
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Collaredkeeper

Eve Aug 27, 2004 09:05 AM

She may have needed more calcuim, or lets say she did not have enough to form normal egg shells.
Thats my opinion on what you have said they looked like.

They NEED extra calcuim while gravid, and I believe some conditioning before that, to develope the eggs, properly.

As far as the sand thing, I dont know, I personlly have used the washed playsand for 6 years or more with ALL my lizards.
except hatchlings go on paper towels for a few weeks.

Maybe she was a bit bound up due to the malformed eggs and the small amount of sand that she normally may get was not able to be eliminated as easily as it normally would.

Like being a bit constipated. But thankfully she did get them out, and will be fine.

Hope you have a better season come spring. We all have our egg troubles, thats for sure.

Like I say I would start NOW and make sure she gets extra calcuim since she has had all these eggs this year she needs it.

Glad all worked out and you girl is doing alot better.
Nice your back too !

Oh also again this is just my thoughts!
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Eve

jeune18 Aug 27, 2004 11:32 AM

well i am definitely putting her back on sand at some point. i guess i will try the home depot stuff again. everyone else seems to be fine with it so maybe it was just a mix up with the eggs.
i am sure she did not get enough calcium when we were going across the country and i will have to pump her up on it for next year.
any idea why she is just laying eggs all over the place?
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vonnie
***One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne***

PHEve Aug 27, 2004 11:45 AM

Because its egg laying time, LOL Sorry, but its just that time of year, they will lay with or without a male!
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Eve

jeune18 Aug 27, 2004 01:40 PM

oh i know that they will lay eggs, fertilized or not, but i was curious as to why she was just randomly laying them, like not in or near her digging spot. two were out in the open and one was under a rock. i just thought that was odd. i guess she figured they were duds and not worth digging for, ha ha.
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vonnie
***One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne***

PHEve Aug 27, 2004 03:20 PM

don't know, some thought it may be that they don't have a suitable site to lay. But I have always had a couple different sites set up, I have some girls who spend days preparing nice dug caves, lay and cover them.

Even after I remove them, (when they are not there to see) They will still push sand on the area for days, taking such care as to keep them covered.

Then I had one this season Chenoa, who layed them at night scattered all over the bare glass and apparently stepped all over them and punctured and destroyed them all.

I guess its like with any Animals or Humans, some are just better at the KID thing than others LOL

She may hide them properly in a her nest once she does it a few times. Hopefully
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Eve

jeune18 Aug 27, 2004 04:04 PM

i am the one who is not good with the kid thing, well i am for awhile and then i like to give them back!
which reminds me, there is an episode of the simpsons called selma's choice. throughout the whole episode she really wants a child but in the end she gets a lizard! now my whole family calls it vonnie's choice
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vonnie
***One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne***

PHEve Aug 27, 2004 09:18 PM

Hahhahaha ! Enjoy for awhile kido, you have plenty of time.

Just buy lizards for a few more years , *SMILE* LOL
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Eve

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