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A few questions about my Viper boa...

Coldthumb Aug 28, 2004 01:30 PM

I have read through this forum some already...

She(no spurs?)has been with me since 02.I suspect she was about a year old at that time.Which puts her in the 3 year old range.
She eats mice and rat crawlers with no problems at all ! (every 10 to 20 days).

However upon weighing today she is only at 230 grams.
Is this the norm ?

..and what is she worth ?
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2.0 50% het Caramel Ball pythons
1.0 Very dark Ball python
0.9 Ball Pythons
1.1 Thayeri Kings
0.1 Viper Boa
1.1 Axanthic looking felines...
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Looking for 0.2 Phelsuma madagascariensis madagascariensis

Replies (10)

SRX Aug 28, 2004 02:11 PM

She is only worth what someone is willing to pay for her...but, to the keeper of such an amazing species, I would hope she was priceless...oh well, money seems to dictate alot; even when it boils down to these amazing little LIVES we share ours with.

coldthumb Aug 28, 2004 03:33 PM

With an open mind,i will assume that there have been a few new folks come through here asking what they "could get" for "their little viper boa".So i can only assume.. that you assumed that i was no different.
However you chose not to notice the first 2 question marks in my previous post.Which i deemed more important.(Thats why they were first).
Yep i took offense,sure did.Thanks alot.
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2.0 50% het Caramel Ball pythons
1.0 Very dark Ball python
0.9 Ball Pythons
1.1 Thayeri Kings
0.1 Viper Boa
1.1 Axanthic looking felines...
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Looking for 0.2 Phelsuma madagascariensis madagascariensis

SRX Aug 29, 2004 02:19 AM

...about @$$uming?

"However you chose not to notice the first 2 question marks in my previous post.Which i deemed more important.(Thats why they were first)."

"Is this the norm ? ..and what is she worth ?"

Above, are the only 2 questions you asked.

She(no spurs?)has been with me since 02.

Is this supposed to be one of the "first 2 questions deemed more important"? If so, the lack of spurs is a female.

Without a photo, there is no way to assume what her value is. The reptile market is generally based on variations of pattern and color and the availability of a given species. Vipers have been sold as low as $40.00 and as high as $1000.00. Quality and time cared for captive produced animals are near non existant(not saying there are not any out there, just that they are few and far between). They are not a generally pleasant species to work with; which is why they do not carry the hype and familiarity as say the Ball pythons (just a species of similar size and girth for reference). Given their fiesty attitudes, Vipers do not appeal to a large consumer base, ruling out worth, which only leaves rarity and scarcity. Something different than what has saturated the market becomes the "next fad" to keep. Yes, it does help to understand the species on a broader spectrum. But look at all the normal Ball pythons that do not "sparkle" as well as their morph based counterparts. If Vipers were more placid, I could see them rivalling the "worth" of other species that are readily available in this country.

On a personal note, I have kept Vipers for some time now, Scrub pythons also, and have watched the reptile market scouring for something new, odd, and rare to refresh itself with...something one has that the other does not. I am not an elitist as you may have assumed. I wish more people kept Vipers to provide a stable pool of captive born and bred specimens and an understanding into this particular species. So, yes, when you ask for the first posting, what is she worth, I guess my response should have just been..."What did you pay for her?"

Scott

Coldthumb Aug 29, 2004 10:52 AM

She was abandoned !
I have taken care of her for 2 years now.
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Posted by: Coldthumb at Sat Aug 28 13:30:37 2004
However upon weighing today she is only at 230 grams.
Is this the norm ?

Is there a possibility something is wrong ? Could her weight x age indicate anything as such ?
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"Mr.Hanky" must feel a little butch about "her" name by now.
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Please dont bash me for the last question in my very first post anymore.I get it...
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Thank you for your response.You some really nice animals.
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2.0 50% het Caramel Ball pythons
1.0 Very dark Ball python
0.9 Ball Pythons
1.1 Thayeri Kings
0.1 Viper Boa
1.1 Axanthic looking felines...
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Looking for 0.2 Phelsuma madagascariensis madagascariensis

SRX Aug 29, 2004 11:01 AM

No overhead...no loss...Any experience gained is pure profit.

Coldthumb Aug 29, 2004 11:06 AM

You win...i'm gone. buh bye
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2.0 50% het Caramel Ball pythons
1.0 Very dark Ball python
0.9 Ball Pythons
1.1 Thayeri Kings
0.1 Viper Boa
1.1 Axanthic looking felines...
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Looking for 0.2 Phelsuma madagascariensis madagascariensis

SRX Aug 29, 2004 11:42 AM

It's not about you or me. It should be about your Viper. How about a photo for reference. Most reptiles can meet the perfect measurements(i.e. length and weight) but still be under or oversized.

On a side note, and not something I care for, I do not run this forum. I do not care if you stay or go. I am not here to make you feel good or bad about yourself or your animals. I am here to share my experiences with others. If you like them fine, if not, oh well. This is a world wide accessible site with any and every walk of life. Just because you do not care for me or anyone else, does not mean you have to leave...or stay...or not.

Just food for thought.

Candoia Aug 31, 2004 11:47 AM

haha, what a weirdo (coldthumb).

J
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2.2 Solomen Island ground boas
0.1 Solomen Island tree boa
1.0 green tree python
1.0 jungle carpet python
1.0 coastal carpet python
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1.0 CB sunbeam snake

SRX Aug 31, 2004 02:19 PM

Anywho...

SRX Aug 31, 2004 03:45 PM

Sorry, thought you were Coldthumb.

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